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t*i
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我们可以无条件退出合同,拿回之前的deposit吗?
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b*c
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【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我们可以无条件退出合同,拿回之前的deposit吗?
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p*y
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如果可以证明对方fraud的话,可以咨询律师看合约是否还有效。
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t*i
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是啊,这个是不是不需要特殊的律师?
对方就是掩盖了他们曾经两次出现了问题,找过保险公司claim,但在disclosure上又
说没有claim。 觉得他们应该是修好了,但不知道为什么还要隐瞒?
nnd,现在找agent,人都找不到。

【在 p******y 的大作中提到】
: 如果可以证明对方fraud的话,可以咨询律师看合约是否还有效。
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n*9
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do you have proof that the seller fraud? it's extremely hard to prove
someone fraud in the court.

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我们可以无条件退出合同,拿回之前的deposit吗?
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t*i
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我们问的保险公司说这房子有过两个claim, 但卖价在disclosure上说没有claim,还
说没有ice的damage。 但其中一个claim就跟冰雹有关。
这些应该可以算证据了?

【在 n*******9 的大作中提到】
: do you have proof that the seller fraud? it's extremely hard to prove
: someone fraud in the court.

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n*9
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it has to be done intentionally from the very beginning. unless you can
prove that, you still don't have a case to against them. they can say that
they forgot. ask them to repair those or credit to you for the repairing
works. if you don't want to buy it, just kill the deal using inspection
result.

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我们问的保险公司说这房子有过两个claim, 但卖价在disclosure上说没有claim,还
: 说没有ice的damage。 但其中一个claim就跟冰雹有关。
: 这些应该可以算证据了?

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t*i
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inspection之后对方签字同意修好inspection 查出来的问题,就几个小问题。 这种情
况我们还能以inspection的理由退出来?

【在 n*******9 的大作中提到】
: it has to be done intentionally from the very beginning. unless you can
: prove that, you still don't have a case to against them. they can say that
: they forgot. ask them to repair those or credit to you for the repairing
: works. if you don't want to buy it, just kill the deal using inspection
: result.

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b*c
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no

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: inspection之后对方签字同意修好inspection 查出来的问题,就几个小问题。 这种情
: 况我们还能以inspection的理由退出来?

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t*i
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这么说我们买家就是得被卖家牵着鼻子走了

【在 b*******c 的大作中提到】
: no
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g*e
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我们律师说我们这里一般卖家不disclosure,给500的credit。
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q*g
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你已经签字同意resolve了? 如果你已经糊涂签字,对方也已经签字,那就不好办了。
你还有机会在appraisal contingency 退出,如果银行appraisal地与你的购买价,你
可以合法退出。但不知道银行的评估会不会低于成交价。还有机会是贷款的
contingency, 你带不到款的话,也是可以退出的。

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: inspection之后对方签字同意修好inspection 查出来的问题,就几个小问题。 这种情
: 况我们还能以inspection的理由退出来?

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t*i
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那时候签字的时候还不知道有这个问题,当时都是小问题。
有没有可能对方当时保险claim做了假,向保险公司谎报了claim,所以不想disclose。
因为inspection的时候确实没有查出什么问题来。

【在 q**********g 的大作中提到】
: 你已经签字同意resolve了? 如果你已经糊涂签字,对方也已经签字,那就不好办了。
: 你还有机会在appraisal contingency 退出,如果银行appraisal地与你的购买价,你
: 可以合法退出。但不知道银行的评估会不会低于成交价。还有机会是贷款的
: contingency, 你带不到款的话,也是可以退出的。

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r*s
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you can find a lawyer and threat to sue even after close if the disclosure
is not done properly. the outcome is you may get some money back through
mediation (you probably still need a lawyer for mediation).
If you just want to back out, I will talk to the agent and let the seller
know that the disclosure is incomplete and let them know the request and see
how they react.

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 那时候签字的时候还不知道有这个问题,当时都是小问题。
: 有没有可能对方当时保险claim做了假,向保险公司谎报了claim,所以不想disclose。
: 因为inspection的时候确实没有查出什么问题来。

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r*s
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it is very hard to prove the intention and the seller has tge responsibility
to truthfully answer the questionaire.

【在 n*******9 的大作中提到】
: it has to be done intentionally from the very beginning. unless you can
: prove that, you still don't have a case to against them. they can say that
: they forgot. ask them to repair those or credit to you for the repairing
: works. if you don't want to buy it, just kill the deal using inspection
: result.

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t*i
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My agent is not willing to help. He said this is seller's privacy. I was
speechless.
Do I need to find a lawyer special in real estate? Thanks.

see

【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】
: you can find a lawyer and threat to sue even after close if the disclosure
: is not done properly. the outcome is you may get some money back through
: mediation (you probably still need a lawyer for mediation).
: If you just want to back out, I will talk to the agent and let the seller
: know that the disclosure is incomplete and let them know the request and see
: how they react.

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r*s
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talk to your agent's boss. Yes, you need to find specialty lawyers and
things will be expensive for every party involved so try to talk the deal
out first and at least see what is the seller's response.

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: My agent is not willing to help. He said this is seller's privacy. I was
: speechless.
: Do I need to find a lawyer special in real estate? Thanks.
:
: see

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t*i
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我们不太想退出来,这个房子还是挺不错的。现在就是想让对方出示证明,到现在我们
都不知道是哪里出了问题,我们的inspection也没查出来。
现在比较恼火的是我们的agent不太帮忙,不站在我们的立场上。 明天准备去找个real
estate laywer咨询一下,如果对方完全理亏那我准备直接跟他们的agent交涉,让他
们出示材料,否则威胁我们要退出来。

【在 r*****s 的大作中提到】
: talk to your agent's boss. Yes, you need to find specialty lawyers and
: things will be expensive for every party involved so try to talk the deal
: out first and at least see what is the seller's response.

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z*a
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冰雹不算ice damage吧

【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我们问的保险公司说这房子有过两个claim, 但卖价在disclosure上说没有claim,还
: 说没有ice的damage。 但其中一个claim就跟冰雹有关。
: 这些应该可以算证据了?

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t*i
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冰雹对屋顶的damage一般都是什么情况? 能在屋顶上砸出洞吗?

【在 z*****a 的大作中提到】
: 冰雹不算ice damage吧
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