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发信人: airdragon77 (QTMDAQ-抢唐门的暗器), 信区: LeisureTime
标 题: 谣言可以杀人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 23 22:05:43 2011, 美东)
死在谣言手下的受害者古今中外都有。在此不一一列举。
哪怕是对于比尔·盖茨这样的绝世强人，谣言有时候也讨厌得很。关于他的著名谣言有
两个：
一、他捐款是为了避税
二、他捐款为第三世界提供疫苗是为了控制人口增长，所以疫苗是有问题的。至于是什
么问题猜测颇多，有说是疫苗里有慢性毒，会让被注射者多年后毒发身亡；有说是会导
致被注射者不育。反正在这个谣言里，比尔就是个杀人魔王。
第一个谣言很久以前我就听说过，最近又重新听人提起。对这个谣言我一直有个疑问：
比尔已经捐出数百亿美金，如果是为了避税，他避的税该比这个数目要大吧？这也太夸
张了，怪不得美国政府赤字高企。比尔还承诺过有生之年要捐出一半以上的财产（１）
－－其实我有印象，听说他要捐的是全部，只留给儿女几百万，不过找不到出处，就当
不是吧－－他要避的税率是多少？200%吗？
这个谣言看来颇为猖獗，比尔也受不了啦，只好在他的基金会网站上辟谣（２）：
Q: Do Bill, Melinda, and Warren get tax breaks for their donations to the
foundation?
A. Many individuals enjoy tax benefits as a result of making charitable
contributions. The amount of tax savings received depends on both the size
of the charitable contributions and the person's annual income.
Bill, Melinda, and Warren have been exceptionally generous in making
contributions to the foundation, donating sums much larger than their annual
incomes. As a result, the tax savings they receive from these contributions
represent a very small percentage of the contributions.
From 1994 to 2006, Bill and Melinda gave the foundation more than $26
billion. Those donations resulted in a tax savings of less than 8.3 percent
of the contributions they made over that time.
In 2006, Warren made the first payment on his historic gift to the
foundation and claimed no tax benefit from this contribution.
你信不信？反正我是信了。
第二个谣言我是今天刚刚听说，不过放狗一搜，“bill gates vaccines depopulation
”出来133,000 条结果。其中头三条都是在Youtube上的一段录像，是他２０１０年在
一个叫做TED2010的论坛上讲话的一部分。其中的引起广泛关注、直接导致这个谣言兴
起的一句话是这么说的：“he world today has 6.8 billion
people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job
on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that
by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”
我先是花了点时间确定这话和录像的真实性；最后在ＴＥＤ的官网上找到了比尔发言的
完整录像：
http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates.html
在4:36处他确实说过这么一句话。在录像的下面有很多讨论，其中对这句话的疑问也有
好几个。有人提供了了这么一个回答：
It won't decrease the world's current population, rather, it will decrease
the future projected population. The stability in livelihood that comes with
increased health brought by successful vaccines and health care
statistically leads to lower birth rates. With a high mortality rate at
various stages in life, those living without assured health care often birth
more children in the hopes that at least a few will survive in the end.
When health care is introduced, mortality rates are lowered and birthing
rates follow suit. Or so I have been led to believe.
有道理吗？比较一下发达国家跟第三世界国家的人口增长，似乎挺有道理。实际上在同
一个国际论坛，几个月后Hans Rosling（３）就这个问题专门发言：
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_grow
还不够有说服力？或许你应该知道比尔的基金并不直接提供疫苗，而是通过第三方非营
利组织来进行，
GAVI Alliance $1.5 billion
PATH Malaria Vaccine Initiative (MVI): $456 million
实际上他的基金主要是通过资助第三方非营利组织来花钱的：
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/foundation-fact-shee
比如说In 2009, the foundation paid approximately $3.0 billion in grants and
an additional $72 million in direct charitable contributions.
这应该大大提高了他实施阴谋（在疫苗中做手脚）的难度吧？比尔这么聪明的人，有必
要这么做吗？反正我看着不大象。而且身怀如此惊世大阴谋，不小心翼翼守口如瓶，却
在公众场合公然说出来，未免太过弱智了。这么弱智的人，长期是世界首富－－你是想
让我们都羞愧至死吗？
好歹咱们也算受过教育的人，对某些惊人的、与常理不符的东西，多问问为什么多想想
“可能吗”，少捕风捉影、少人云亦云，或许不算太高的要求罢？
（１）http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/dec2010/ca20101214_945792.htm
（２）http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/frequently-asked-questions-foundation.aspx
（３）http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rosling
发信人: airdragon77 (QTMDAQ-抢唐门的暗器), 信区: LeisureTime
标 题: 谣言可以杀人
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 23 22:05:43 2011, 美东)
死在谣言手下的受害者古今中外都有。在此不一一列举。
哪怕是对于比尔·盖茨这样的绝世强人，谣言有时候也讨厌得很。关于他的著名谣言有
两个：
一、他捐款是为了避税
二、他捐款为第三世界提供疫苗是为了控制人口增长，所以疫苗是有问题的。至于是什
么问题猜测颇多，有说是疫苗里有慢性毒，会让被注射者多年后毒发身亡；有说是会导
致被注射者不育。反正在这个谣言里，比尔就是个杀人魔王。
第一个谣言很久以前我就听说过，最近又重新听人提起。对这个谣言我一直有个疑问：
比尔已经捐出数百亿美金，如果是为了避税，他避的税该比这个数目要大吧？这也太夸
张了，怪不得美国政府赤字高企。比尔还承诺过有生之年要捐出一半以上的财产（１）
－－其实我有印象，听说他要捐的是全部，只留给儿女几百万，不过找不到出处，就当
不是吧－－他要避的税率是多少？200%吗？
这个谣言看来颇为猖獗，比尔也受不了啦，只好在他的基金会网站上辟谣（２）：
Q: Do Bill, Melinda, and Warren get tax breaks for their donations to the
foundation?
A. Many individuals enjoy tax benefits as a result of making charitable
contributions. The amount of tax savings received depends on both the size
of the charitable contributions and the person's annual income.
Bill, Melinda, and Warren have been exceptionally generous in making
contributions to the foundation, donating sums much larger than their annual
incomes. As a result, the tax savings they receive from these contributions
represent a very small percentage of the contributions.
From 1994 to 2006, Bill and Melinda gave the foundation more than $26
billion. Those donations resulted in a tax savings of less than 8.3 percent
of the contributions they made over that time.
In 2006, Warren made the first payment on his historic gift to the
foundation and claimed no tax benefit from this contribution.
你信不信？反正我是信了。
第二个谣言我是今天刚刚听说，不过放狗一搜，“bill gates vaccines depopulation
”出来133,000 条结果。其中头三条都是在Youtube上的一段录像，是他２０１０年在
一个叫做TED2010的论坛上讲话的一部分。其中的引起广泛关注、直接导致这个谣言兴
起的一句话是这么说的：“he world today has 6.8 billion
people. That's headed up to about 9 billion. Now if we do a really great job
on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we lower that
by perhaps 10 or 15 percent.”
我先是花了点时间确定这话和录像的真实性；最后在ＴＥＤ的官网上找到了比尔发言的
完整录像：
http://www.ted.com/talks/bill_gates.html
在4:36处他确实说过这么一句话。在录像的下面有很多讨论，其中对这句话的疑问也有
好几个。有人提供了了这么一个回答：
It won't decrease the world's current population, rather, it will decrease
the future projected population. The stability in livelihood that comes with
increased health brought by successful vaccines and health care
statistically leads to lower birth rates. With a high mortality rate at
various stages in life, those living without assured health care often birth
more children in the hopes that at least a few will survive in the end.
When health care is introduced, mortality rates are lowered and birthing
rates follow suit. Or so I have been led to believe.
有道理吗？比较一下发达国家跟第三世界国家的人口增长，似乎挺有道理。实际上在同
一个国际论坛，几个月后Hans Rosling（３）就这个问题专门发言：
http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_on_global_population_grow
还不够有说服力？或许你应该知道比尔的基金并不直接提供疫苗，而是通过第三方非营
利组织来进行，
GAVI Alliance $1.5 billion
PATH Malaria Vaccine Initiative (MVI): $456 million
实际上他的基金主要是通过资助第三方非营利组织来花钱的：
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/foundation-fact-shee
比如说In 2009, the foundation paid approximately $3.0 billion in grants and
an additional $72 million in direct charitable contributions.
这应该大大提高了他实施阴谋（在疫苗中做手脚）的难度吧？比尔这么聪明的人，有必
要这么做吗？反正我看着不大象。而且身怀如此惊世大阴谋，不小心翼翼守口如瓶，却
在公众场合公然说出来，未免太过弱智了。这么弱智的人，长期是世界首富－－你是想
让我们都羞愧至死吗？
好歹咱们也算受过教育的人，对某些惊人的、与常理不符的东西，多问问为什么多想想
“可能吗”，少捕风捉影、少人云亦云，或许不算太高的要求罢？
（１）http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/dec2010/ca20101214_945792.htm
（２）http://www.gatesfoundation.org/about/Pages/frequently-asked-questions-foundation.aspx
（３）http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Rosling
