Thiel Fellow成功概率太高，2年10万刀，必须退学，共217人，已经16个unicorn, 剩下的不少千万.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-10-19/thiel-s-unicorn-success-is-awkward-for-colleges

https://greyknight.co.uk/peter-thiel-and-the-16-unicorns-the-legacy-of-thiel-fellowship/

 Thiel fellows have achieved shocking success, enough to merit a reconsideration of our current approach to college. A recent book, Paper Belt on Fire, by one of Thiel’s colleagues, fills in the backstory of the fellowship and refines the argument against traditional higher education.

The most notable Thiel fellow to date is Vitalik Buterin, co-founder of the Ethereum blockchain. As of this writing, Ethereum has a market capitalization of about $200 billion 

Austin Russel, a 2013 Thiel fellow, took Luminar Technologies Inc. public in 2020, valuing the company at $8.5 billion, while Paul Gu helped Upstart go public at a $4.8 billion valuation. 

Lucy Guo co-founded Scale AI.

Beyond the dollar signs, there are many other innovative companies being built or supported by Thiel fellows.

 

There are more Rhodes scholars every year than Thiel fellows and, depending on the course of study, the scholarships can easily pay well over $100,000 to keep students in school. They also offer access to larger networks of more powerful people than Thiel can arguably offer. There are many other prestigious scholarships and fellowships to identify the highest-potential students. All of them put together can’t match the kind of entrepreneurial success before age 35 of Thiel fellows. In addition, nearly every college today has entrepreneurial institutes, incubators or other programs to support student ventures while the founders continue taking classes. Again, none have achieved anything like the success of the Thiel Fellowship.

LucyGuo也是thiel fellow. 这些fellow里面成才的比例太高了，秒杀所有学校

小中真想创业成功，明显要争取进Thiel fellow。能进Thiel, 40万算啥

2年才10万刀，产生这么多创业成功人士。回报率好高。真是秒杀所有其他机构花的钱，名校钱花的打水漂了

原来你的point 在这。我是不喜欢这个人的，他的公司我从不invest.

问题是不是这个fellow成就了这些人，而且这样的人接受了这个fellow

要是马云任老爷子办个类似的program，你会让娃从清北退学参加吗？

要是Thiel哪天出车祸了咋办？

是的，同意。也说明他们挑选机制太强大，等于是地上随便捡黄金。名校是掘地3尺也没找到几粒黄金

Thiel为什么不从毕业生里招人，非招没毕业的？是不是为了让他们对他有人身依附关系？这有点象马俊仁训练马家军

这里申请。基金会不take equity，22岁以下

https://thielfellowship.org

肯定要看娃是不是这类人啊，如果娃在清北对科研最有兴趣，有啥必要因为马云就退学呢？

故事来源, 已经产生了累计4000亿美元的公司

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/ten-years-ago-we-created-thiel-fellowship-jim-o-neill/

A surge of regulations surely chilled innovation, but beyond that it was hard to blame pessimism or oil prices when the slowdown had lingered for decades. Stagnant wages were clearly an effect and not a cause. We decided that the hidden factor was talent. In the 1950s and 1960s, the smartest young people flocked to the frontiers of discovery. In the 1970s, though, they became doctors; in the 1980s they became lawyers; and in the 1990s they went to Wall Street. These were well-defined careers with brightly lit gates welcoming crowds down paths that were easy to follow.

What happened to the American archetype of quitting your job to invent something in your garage? Debt happened, we decided. I had previously lost a cofounder because of student debt payments, and we realized such debt made it hard to quit your job and start a company. Tuition had skyrocketed in the previous decades, and the burden of student debt had followed. Credential inflation had encouraged young Americans to earn more degrees than their parents just to keep the same standard of living.

At this point we realized we could make a difference. We could rescue a few people a year and give them permission to start companies before they took on the debt and career-tracking of college. We could also send a signal to their generation that college was a particular good with measurable costs and benefits and that postponing a career to make such a huge purchase should never be a default. We resolved to create a two-year fellowship, call it the 20 under 20 Thiel Fellowship, and give each fellow a grant of $100,000. Our plane landed at SFO and we announced it the next day.

 

Thiel Fellows went on to invent technologies, assemble teams, iterate, fail, and try again. You may know about Figma, Luminar, Upstart, Ethereum, Freenome, Fossa, Augur, Polkadot, or Workflow (which is now part of Siri). Overall, they founded companies worth about four hundred billion dollars, but that figure hardly captures the animations, computer languages, science journals, nonprofits, and venture funds; or the physics, biology, and software tools they devised

 

 

有钱人很多是好人，但他不是

看下面故事来源，提到了一点

对事不对人，不能因为这个人你认为不好，就否定他做的所有的事情

他要真有钱可以帮人还了学贷再创业。要人没毕业就给他干就是在养佃农啊。

每个人都有自己的行事原则，我不鼓励年轻人follow 不ethical 的人，

赚钱的机会很多，不需要这样

只能说他不是你对有钱人要求的那种有钱人，也说明资本的力量就是大啊

人家风险评估，市场评估，技术评估肯定都做足了。能被看上的，多少都是有潜力的。再加上过去二三十年，

互联网高科技持续发展，多少热钱都涌入硅谷。大家都在等next可以下金蛋的鹅呢。

能被人家看上，肯定就是潜在的大鹅。

no equity taken

这人是德国人，抠门儿

22岁以下才能申请，不take申请人equity, 必须退学。大学，其他基金花了这么多钱，乍培养不出来这种人才

让人commit两年最好的时间，他只花十万块还获得投资的最好机会，算盘打得不错。这钱就是矿厂雇暑假intern的开销

那就看创业人是否有闯劲啊。连创业都患得患失的，能成功吗？

现在的年轻人本身ethical吗？care吗？ ：））

他为啥要浪费钱？2年10万就能搞定的事，为啥要多花钱

为创业去卖身不值。公平的交易要求双方都take risk，不能是单向的

所以这就是ScaleAI和矿工的区别。一个没有啥risk，可以成为富人，一个risk很大，但是能成为富豪。

他给人2年10万。大学要娃付4年40万，还commite4年时间，事情就怕比较。对牛人来说，读大学亏大了

那就不用卖身，自己父母那里可以弄10万。但是后期投资呢？这个10万不过是个Angel fund。

至少他没有胁迫年轻人，那就是买卖

你不喜欢risk，一点问题都没有呀。：）

天下VC也不是他一家，别人也不需要放弃自己的学业去卖身。

紫檀只会盯着钱，他这个项目不是钱的事，而是提供的强大的network，那是千金难买的资源。

每人有自己承担风险的方式，钱什么时候挣都不晚。

当然

那就说说你都认识哪些VC，或者有哪些VC可以提供投资的。

我老公的两个发小就是一个芝加哥挺大的buyout的私募投资人。也没说跟人家从小一起长大，好朋友性质，跟人家联络聊天，人家就会帮助投资了。

现在投资的都是IB之类的banker。走正常程序。。。

 

因为你可能对于孩子创业成功率的信心不足，都认定了不太可能成功，才会说先读书，再创业。

但是如果孩子做了一两年矿工，收入不错，突然要创业了，你会支持吗？

估计还是risk太大了， not in your comfort zone.

感谢分享，第一次听说这个人和fellowship. 可以换个思路，自己的孩子不用辍学创业，但可毕业后去此类startup

类似信息，可以帮助孩子挑选出有前途的startup公司. Information is always powerful.

钱不是一切，创业也不是一切，犯不着那么猴急

我家老爷子八十年代就在做VC，没那么神。

其实越年轻创业，风险还是越小的。总不至于等到中年创业，家里有老有小，都等着吃饭。

拿自己积蓄创业（我公公就是中年创业，虽然最后也成功了）？或者人到快退休，拿自己的退休金创业？

这个风险评估，应该是越老，风险越大啊。。。人家给钱的可能性越小。

我觉得创业可以以耐心等待毕业再做，人也成熟些，独立些。本科没毕业做还要靠着sugar daddy不健康。

马云五年前办了个西湖大学啊，办学宗旨是十五年超过普林斯顿，现在五年过去，只要十年就超过普林斯顿

Q华、P王不能望其项背

哈哈

我觉得有哈

不是马云，是马化腾

很好的视角：）

不take equity，其实就很好了。大部分人创业，极少数人能成功成为富豪，很多创业的，到最后就变成给VC打工的了。

那个还是活了几年的startup。startup没有做大的，其实就是给VC打工而已。