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[转载] [陈氏奇谈]世界金融危机的根源是在中国

[转载] [陈氏奇谈]世界金融危机的根源是在中国# Economics - 经济

m*e2098-08-31 07:08

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【以下文字转载自 talk 讨论区】
【原文由 manatee 所发表】
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Posted by 陈必红 on August 31, 1998 at 01:56:54:
世界金融危机的根源是在中国
从去年的亚洲金融危机到今年的世界普遍的经济危
机,为什么中国的经济屹立不倒?本文将说明中国是
造成世界经济危机的根源.
商品经济,讲究的是供求关系.当一样商品多了,那
么它的价格就会下降.比如,如果市场上西瓜的供应
突然增加了一倍,那么西瓜的价格通常就会下降一
倍.也可能更多,例如北京今年的西瓜价格下降到一
角钱一斤都卖不出去,比文革时期还便宜.这种商品
的行情变化是极快的,在市场上立即反映的.
但是有一种特殊的商品,虽然也服从供求关系法则,
却是以一种特殊的方式来变化行情的.这种商品就是
劳动力.
一般说来,如果市场上劳动力多,则平均工资就会低,
反之则高.人事管理制度的特点却是,员工的工资都
是只升不降的,通常不会给员工减薪,却有可能裁员.
因此,劳动力多导致的是找工作困难,失业率增加,以
及公司裁员.而在职员工则必需加更多的班.
在中国改革开放以前,它的计划经

b*b2098-08-31 07:08

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he is getting too far.
I agree with the basics he said, which means money(currency) is
nothing, real fortune relies on the productivity and proof of
the acceptance of those productivity. that's why i say economics
is basically commen sense. And CBH got this commen sense right.
What he didin't think about is the operational part of economic
cycle. Yes, we have been opened our door, but it doesn't mean
the majority labor is working for the growth of foreign capital.
Basically our operation is stil

m*e2098-08-31 07:08

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一针见血. BTW, could you tell me whether the following is true or not?
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所以我们看到,由于中国加入世界经济体系的时间晚,
劳力便宜,加上中共一党专制的制度极为稳定,贪官
们与资本家友好相处,等等一系列因素,使得中国成
了一个巨大的漩涡或者黑洞,缓慢地,但是不可阻挡
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地将全世界的资金慢慢地吸入.这也就造成了世界其
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它地方的持续的经济危机.
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(而且，吸入全世界的资金就一定导致其它地方的经济危机吗？I don't think so.)

【在 b*b 的大作中提到】

: he is getting too far.
: I agree with the basics he said, which means money(currency) is
: nothing, real fortune relies on the productivity and proof of
: the acceptance of those productivity. that's why i say economics
: is basically commen sense. And CBH got this commen sense right.
: What he didin't think about is the operational part of economic
: cycle. Yes, we have been opened our door, but it doesn't mean
: the majority labor is working for the growth of foreign capital.
: Basically our operation is stil

b*b2098-08-31 07:08

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No. International trading has a lot differnce with international invest-ment.
Reason: Trade is bound by contracts. And capital is much more free to come and
go.
And as I said, TIME makes the difference.
en, i want to kick somebody.

b*b2098-08-31 07:08

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^^^^ You hit the key here.
To determine it's long-term or short-term, you have to c how
long it stays in the process of production. True there are
terms and regulations that you should not withdraw the funds,
and if u do, you break the contract. But u know what? People
do break contracts, especially when it is a GROUP action.
We will c bankruptcy all over the world soon.

q*i2098-08-31 07:08

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Commerce/Trading is exchange of commodities (goods, and money). Capital
is financial resources. Investment is the process though which
capital is deployed to generate profits. The investors
have no contractual rights/claims on the profits as parties in
a trading relationship have on the goods. why's trading
even relevant in the dicussion of capital?

b*b2098-08-31 07:08

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//kick look, the net is just as unstable as the market.

yes, trade contract can be broken too. And it doesn't mean investment
contract is not breakable.
U r changing the topic here.
True. But as a finance guy, we never care our previous investment. It's
gone and we don't consider. We always think about the future. And if
it's decided not to invest any more, the booming is over, and the bust
can not be avoided.
didn't u get it? the contract is not REAL production and everything can
happen no mat