j*7
2 楼
你要是对版有感情,那就招几个板斧帮忙得了,你不辞职,站方也不会有意见
要是没感情,后面的骂战你也没精力管
B版的人都到齐了,这是一场jiao定W版前途的xx
有请怨妇
要是没感情,后面的骂战你也没精力管
B版的人都到齐了,这是一场jiao定W版前途的xx
有请怨妇
E*C
3 楼
新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
东西。
谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
我当时心里生气,就给她挑了个错,平时丫动物弄错了,我都私下和她说,从不当众说
。丫生气摔门走了,跑老板那里告状,说我难以合作。老板明天要找谈话,求各位帮我
想个谈话的思路。我怕我一生气,会激动地吵起来!
THANKS!
位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
东西。
谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
我当时心里生气,就给她挑了个错,平时丫动物弄错了,我都私下和她说,从不当众说
。丫生气摔门走了,跑老板那里告状,说我难以合作。老板明天要找谈话,求各位帮我
想个谈话的思路。我怕我一生气,会激动地吵起来!
THANKS!
f*n
4 楼
只要移民局收到申请的日期(RD)在I-94上的日期前就行
w*y
6 楼
貌似你先告的状?
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
n*g
8 楼
tell the truth
s*e
13 楼
write email
s*y
14 楼
这件事情,
首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
你就不要提这件事情。
第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
不敢那么找你麻烦了
最后,我想说的是,有些中国人,其实是很喜欢挑软柿子捏,而且最怕别人出
风头的。他/她自己并不一定有什么风头可出,但就是见不得同胞出风头。所以
看到新来的中国人总是很有敌意的,对老美反而非常关照。对于这种人,在你
拿他/她没有办法的时候,最好是敬而远之
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
你就不要提这件事情。
第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
不敢那么找你麻烦了
最后,我想说的是,有些中国人,其实是很喜欢挑软柿子捏,而且最怕别人出
风头的。他/她自己并不一定有什么风头可出,但就是见不得同胞出风头。所以
看到新来的中国人总是很有敌意的,对老美反而非常关照。对于这种人,在你
拿他/她没有办法的时候,最好是敬而远之
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
n*k
15 楼
Hey, Sunny, no offense but I would think it twice before I would give out
comments/advice like this...From the tone the LZ is talking of others, I am
not sure who is at fault...Frankly, I suspect LZ could be one of those who are
over-aggressive/confident, or not cautious/ respectful/professional enough as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
Honestly, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with the way he/she is talking.
Not particularly professional nor really respectful...Just my two cents...
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 这件事情,
: 首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
: 第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
: 第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
: 知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
: 你就不要提这件事情。
: 第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
: 干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
: 需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
: 我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
comments/advice like this...From the tone the LZ is talking of others, I am
not sure who is at fault...Frankly, I suspect LZ could be one of those who are
over-aggressive/confident, or not cautious/ respectful/professional enough as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
Honestly, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with the way he/she is talking.
Not particularly professional nor really respectful...Just my two cents...
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 这件事情,
: 首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
: 第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
: 第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
: 知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
: 你就不要提这件事情。
: 第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
: 干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
: 需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
: 我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
E*C
16 楼
多谢你这样详细的建议,正是我需要的。
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 这件事情,
: 首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
: 第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
: 第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
: 知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
: 你就不要提这件事情。
: 第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
: 干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
: 需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
: 我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 这件事情,
: 首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
: 第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
: 第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
: 知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
: 你就不要提这件事情。
: 第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
: 干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
: 需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
: 我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
E*C
17 楼
如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
你当偶像。
我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
填的。
而她当时用电脑是干什么?就是查一下第二天的天气。
这只是刚上班2天发生的事。以后这样的荒唐事我就不一一叙述了。因为要通过她订东
西,我一直对她敬而远之,她刁难我用动物已经很久了,这次,只是我不想忍受而已,
而且我也没和她吵起来,我就是指出她动物记录错了,一些已经处死的,她没记录,她
当时就大喊说我没看明白,不该question 她,然后就跑去告状了,事实上,她确实记
录错了。
总之,我在美国工作4年,还从没和人产生过这样的问题,或是有人说我agressive .
事实上,我前一个老板一直认为我缺少agressive的劲头。另外,她的所作所为,在我
整个职业生涯里,除了在中国,我还真是第一次在工作中遇到这么爱处处刁难人的人。
同一件事,她对我,对美国同事,和韩国同事,那是绝对不一样的态度。
am
are
as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
talking.
..
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, Sunny, no offense but I would think it twice before I would give out
: comments/advice like this...From the tone the LZ is talking of others, I am
: not sure who is at fault...Frankly, I suspect LZ could be one of those who are
: over-aggressive/confident, or not cautious/ respectful/professional enough as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
: Honestly, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with the way he/she is talking.
: Not particularly professional nor really respectful...Just my two cents...
你当偶像。
我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
填的。
而她当时用电脑是干什么?就是查一下第二天的天气。
这只是刚上班2天发生的事。以后这样的荒唐事我就不一一叙述了。因为要通过她订东
西,我一直对她敬而远之,她刁难我用动物已经很久了,这次,只是我不想忍受而已,
而且我也没和她吵起来,我就是指出她动物记录错了,一些已经处死的,她没记录,她
当时就大喊说我没看明白,不该question 她,然后就跑去告状了,事实上,她确实记
录错了。
总之,我在美国工作4年,还从没和人产生过这样的问题,或是有人说我agressive .
事实上,我前一个老板一直认为我缺少agressive的劲头。另外,她的所作所为,在我
整个职业生涯里,除了在中国,我还真是第一次在工作中遇到这么爱处处刁难人的人。
同一件事,她对我,对美国同事,和韩国同事,那是绝对不一样的态度。
am
are
as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
talking.
..
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, Sunny, no offense but I would think it twice before I would give out
: comments/advice like this...From the tone the LZ is talking of others, I am
: not sure who is at fault...Frankly, I suspect LZ could be one of those who are
: over-aggressive/confident, or not cautious/ respectful/professional enough as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
: Honestly, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with the way he/she is talking.
: Not particularly professional nor really respectful...Just my two cents...
b*r
18 楼
即使完全是她的错恐怕你也讨不了什么好
碰到实在处不来的,可能还不如干脆换地方吧,看你码这么多字,估计每天也够难受的
碰到实在处不来的,可能还不如干脆换地方吧,看你码这么多字,估计每天也够难受的
K*n
19 楼
她干了15年,那她是啥人估计老板也有数儿吧。
不过她干了15年,那估计老板是不会得罪她的。
但是真的可以干technician干15年吗????
hr
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
不过她干了15年,那估计老板是不会得罪她的。
但是真的可以干technician干15年吗????
hr
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
p*y
21 楼
看你的帖我都看到生气了,怎么会有这么刻薄的人,让人多用2分钟的电脑都不行。
既然要告状,那你把她的恶行一一记录下来,不带情绪的记录,就是把事情记下来,
到时候老板问你就给老板看记录。
hr
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
既然要告状,那你把她的恶行一一记录下来,不带情绪的记录,就是把事情记下来,
到时候老板问你就给老板看记录。
hr
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
D*a
22 楼
既然从刚来他就这么针对你,你平时就该留email作为证据,有证据没?
sunnyday说得对,一定要平和,加装傻问他是不是动物要先让韩国人用?是不是实验记
录你理解错了?等等等等。。。
sunnyday说得对,一定要平和,加装傻问他是不是动物要先让韩国人用?是不是实验记
录你理解错了?等等等等。。。
g*0
23 楼
定东西的时候装点孙子,东西到手赶紧出数据,数据拿到赶紧去老板那里邀功,赶紧发
paper,发了paper赶紧走人。那女人面子上过的去就行了,你动不了她的(我身边就有
例子),眼不见心不烦就行了,把自己的事情做好,别的都是浮云。
paper,发了paper赶紧走人。那女人面子上过的去就行了,你动不了她的(我身边就有
例子),眼不见心不烦就行了,把自己的事情做好,别的都是浮云。
j*x
25 楼
一直觉得你的帖子还挺有参考价值的,就是读起来怎么都觉得不爽,宁可听LZ这种似乎
不怎么professional的语言还舒服点。行文能不能不用这么装?我们说对事不对人,尽量不要对别人本身太judgmental。 no offense...
am
are
as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
talking.
..
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, Sunny, no offense but I would think it twice before I would give out
: comments/advice like this...From the tone the LZ is talking of others, I am
: not sure who is at fault...Frankly, I suspect LZ could be one of those who are
: over-aggressive/confident, or not cautious/ respectful/professional enough as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
: Honestly, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with the way he/she is talking.
: Not particularly professional nor really respectful...Just my two cents...
不怎么professional的语言还舒服点。行文能不能不用这么装?我们说对事不对人,尽量不要对别人本身太judgmental。 no offense...
am
are
as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
talking.
..
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, Sunny, no offense but I would think it twice before I would give out
: comments/advice like this...From the tone the LZ is talking of others, I am
: not sure who is at fault...Frankly, I suspect LZ could be one of those who are
: over-aggressive/confident, or not cautious/ respectful/professional enough as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
: Honestly, I wouldn't feel entirely comfortable with the way he/she is talking.
: Not particularly professional nor really respectful...Just my two cents...
s*g
27 楼
遇事不要发火,不要着急.好冷静才能处理好.
是有中国的老资格人员对新来的欺负.我就遇到过.抓住她的事情,私下里提醒她还那
么不感激,还要把人往死里整.那你就做好立足和转移的两手准备.对老板也要讲事实
,讲策略.
是有中国的老资格人员对新来的欺负.我就遇到过.抓住她的事情,私下里提醒她还那
么不感激,还要把人往死里整.那你就做好立足和转移的两手准备.对老板也要讲事实
,讲策略.
v*a
28 楼
支持你!这种人就得好好教训一下她!保持冷静、克制,千万不要动怒,要用机智和智
慧给她以还击!
hr
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
慧给她以还击!
hr
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
r*r
29 楼
泼点冷水吧,可能你不太愿意听。别老想着斗争了,弄不好自己被斗争。人家干了十几年,见过实验室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
1)尊重别人,尊重自己。不管人家干什么,调整心态,把人家当同事看。人家让你跟韩国人商量一下资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商量了吗?就算是她不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
2)学会观察和适应。你刚到新环境,想让人家适应你,现实吗?你观察一下周围人家是怎么做的,怎么说的,学着干不就行了。她虽然是实验员,但协调的是一个组,你协调的是一个人和一堆动物,大家都说她坏吗吗?
3)最重要的一点。真不满意,回家和自己家人说说就算了,犯不着弄这么大动静。你今天这么说同事明天就可以这么说老板。就这满篇“死女人”“丫”什么的,在这个中国人的小圈子里传,如果说严重了,现在老板HR可以让你立马走人,将来你工作还容易找吗?
1)尊重别人,尊重自己。不管人家干什么,调整心态,把人家当同事看。人家让你跟韩国人商量一下资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商量了吗?就算是她不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
2)学会观察和适应。你刚到新环境,想让人家适应你,现实吗?你观察一下周围人家是怎么做的,怎么说的,学着干不就行了。她虽然是实验员,但协调的是一个组,你协调的是一个人和一堆动物,大家都说她坏吗吗?
3)最重要的一点。真不满意,回家和自己家人说说就算了,犯不着弄这么大动静。你今天这么说同事明天就可以这么说老板。就这满篇“死女人”“丫”什么的,在这个中国人的小圈子里传,如果说严重了,现在老板HR可以让你立马走人,将来你工作还容易找吗?
E*C
30 楼
Thank you for all you guys.
The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
can sit down and listen to both side stories.
after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
hear.
my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
'
are you sure more than twice on same thing ?"
she said that is what she does! nobody complains before! she said she
thought i am crazy, something is going wrong in my mind!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
after talking, my boss came to me and said if i want to go out for
beers,
just go for it. he understood how frustrating i am.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
can sit down and listen to both side stories.
after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
hear.
my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
'
are you sure more than twice on same thing ?"
she said that is what she does! nobody complains before! she said she
thought i am crazy, something is going wrong in my mind!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
after talking, my boss came to me and said if i want to go out for
beers,
just go for it. he understood how frustrating i am.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
E*C
31 楼
before you throw cold water on me , pls read my post first.
you know what , never mind. you might just want to lash out your angry
under my thread.
几年,见过实验
室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
跟韩国人商量一下
资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商
量了吗?就算是她
不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
家是怎么做的,怎
么说的,学着干不就行了。她虽然是实验员,但协调的是一个组,你协调的是一个人和
一堆动物,大家
都说她坏吗吗?
你今天这么说同事
明天就可以这么说老板。就这满篇“死女人”“丫”什么的,在这个中国人的小圈子里
传,如果说严重了,
现在老板HR可以让你立马走人,将来你工作还容易找吗?
【在 r*********r 的大作中提到】
: 泼点冷水吧,可能你不太愿意听。别老想着斗争了,弄不好自己被斗争。人家干了十几年,见过实验室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
: 1)尊重别人,尊重自己。不管人家干什么,调整心态,把人家当同事看。人家让你跟韩国人商量一下资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商量了吗?就算是她不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
: 2)学会观察和适应。你刚到新环境,想让人家适应你,现实吗?你观察一下周围人家是怎么做的,怎么说的,学着干不就行了。她虽然是实验员,但协调的是一个组,你协调的是一个人和一堆动物,大家都说她坏吗吗?
: 3)最重要的一点。真不满意,回家和自己家人说说就算了,犯不着弄这么大动静。你今天这么说同事明天就可以这么说老板。就这满篇“死女人”“丫”什么的,在这个中国人的小圈子里传,如果说严重了,现在老板HR可以让你立马走人,将来你工作还容易找吗?
you know what , never mind. you might just want to lash out your angry
under my thread.
几年,见过实验
室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
跟韩国人商量一下
资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商
量了吗?就算是她
不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
家是怎么做的,怎
么说的,学着干不就行了。她虽然是实验员,但协调的是一个组,你协调的是一个人和
一堆动物,大家
都说她坏吗吗?
你今天这么说同事
明天就可以这么说老板。就这满篇“死女人”“丫”什么的,在这个中国人的小圈子里
传,如果说严重了,
现在老板HR可以让你立马走人,将来你工作还容易找吗?
【在 r*********r 的大作中提到】
: 泼点冷水吧,可能你不太愿意听。别老想着斗争了,弄不好自己被斗争。人家干了十几年,见过实验室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
: 1)尊重别人,尊重自己。不管人家干什么,调整心态,把人家当同事看。人家让你跟韩国人商量一下资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商量了吗?就算是她不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
: 2)学会观察和适应。你刚到新环境,想让人家适应你,现实吗?你观察一下周围人家是怎么做的,怎么说的,学着干不就行了。她虽然是实验员,但协调的是一个组,你协调的是一个人和一堆动物,大家都说她坏吗吗?
: 3)最重要的一点。真不满意,回家和自己家人说说就算了,犯不着弄这么大动静。你今天这么说同事明天就可以这么说老板。就这满篇“死女人”“丫”什么的,在这个中国人的小圈子里传,如果说严重了,现在老板HR可以让你立马走人,将来你工作还容易找吗?
b*r
32 楼
不要做hater
另外老板就是老板,话是这么说,谁知道他心里怎么想的
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for all you guys.
: The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
: can sit down and listen to both side stories.
: after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
: she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
: my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
: response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
: she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
: hear.
: my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
另外老板就是老板,话是这么说,谁知道他心里怎么想的
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for all you guys.
: The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
: can sit down and listen to both side stories.
: after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
: she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
: my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
: response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
: she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
: hear.
: my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
E*C
33 楼
I don't want to make a scene, and I don't want everything goes ugly.
that is why i came here ask for advice.
i had to admit. i was mad when i threw this thread. but after seeing some
warm hearted suggestion. i calm down.
i wasn't acting 100% professional this morning, because she made up
something. but i was cool, and express myself.
at least , she promised in front of my boss, that she won't go after me
questioning and nagging me anymore.
【在 v***a 的大作中提到】
: 支持你!这种人就得好好教训一下她!保持冷静、克制,千万不要动怒,要用机智和智
: 慧给她以还击!
:
: hr
that is why i came here ask for advice.
i had to admit. i was mad when i threw this thread. but after seeing some
warm hearted suggestion. i calm down.
i wasn't acting 100% professional this morning, because she made up
something. but i was cool, and express myself.
at least , she promised in front of my boss, that she won't go after me
questioning and nagging me anymore.
【在 v***a 的大作中提到】
: 支持你!这种人就得好好教训一下她!保持冷静、克制,千万不要动怒,要用机智和智
: 慧给她以还击!
:
: hr
T*I
35 楼
这样的中国人确实很邪恶。你要暗地里找她的错,然后找机会报复她。绝对不能轻饶这
家伙。你要是退让忍耐,有你受的。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
家伙。你要是退让忍耐,有你受的。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 如果你被一个不professional的人欺负半年,你还能照样表示respectful,那我立刻拿
: 你当偶像。
: 我刚进组的第二天,因为老板给我订的电脑没到,让我和她share一个电脑,我正在hr
: 的网站填退休计划,她回来说,她要立刻用电脑,我和她解释,在给我2分钟就可以,
: hr网站上说,一定填完再退出,中途退出就要到hr那重新reactive我得帐号。
: 她表示她立刻要用电脑,并说,我可以去HR那里填退休计划,她就是那么填的。当时
: 我知道她和老板新签的合同,所以就信了她。
: 大夏天走了15分钟路到了HR,被损了一通,说早就GO PAPERLESS了。
: 而且分管我得那个人休假,等我得帐号重新激活,正好过了第一个月存退休金的日期。
: 而我回来问她,她说她15年前是走到HR那里填的表,这次重新签合同,也是在网上
p*a
36 楼
我觉得reatimepcr的建议很中肯,别人给你建议是对你好,如果你把这样的建议都当成
什么‘you might just want to lash
out your angry under my thread. ’,我觉得你太‘自我’了,不懂得尊重和理解别
人。
lz在批评别人的同时,是不是该好好自我反省一下?
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: before you throw cold water on me , pls read my post first.
: you know what , never mind. you might just want to lash out your angry
: under my thread.
:
: 几年,见过实验
: 室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
: 跟韩国人商量一下
: 资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商
: 量了吗?就算是她
: 不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
什么‘you might just want to lash
out your angry under my thread. ’,我觉得你太‘自我’了,不懂得尊重和理解别
人。
lz在批评别人的同时,是不是该好好自我反省一下?
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: before you throw cold water on me , pls read my post first.
: you know what , never mind. you might just want to lash out your angry
: under my thread.
:
: 几年,见过实验
: 室里不同的人多了,估计根本没想过和你较劲。
: 跟韩国人商量一下
: 资源共享,你都不愿意,“我干嘛要征求韩国人同意”。你用人家电脑的时候和人家商
: 量了吗?就算是她
: 不对,你也可以把此转机成别人对你的信任。
l*n
37 楼
遇到这样的人好倒霉
f*b
38 楼
首先中国人这类情况太正常了,
第二,先搞清出她不是老板的二奶在计较,不然,你基本没有机会,
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
第二,先搞清出她不是老板的二奶在计较,不然,你基本没有机会,
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
o*d
39 楼
你也不是什么好货,还了解情况,了解个P,身正不怕影子斜!好好做好自己的工作,
比什么都强,不要把国内搞关系那套拿来。
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
比什么都强,不要把国内搞关系那套拿来。
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
f*4
43 楼
既然已经和老板说清楚了,就不要在 生气了,把自己的事儿做好最重要了。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: I don't want to make a scene, and I don't want everything goes ugly.
: that is why i came here ask for advice.
: i had to admit. i was mad when i threw this thread. but after seeing some
: warm hearted suggestion. i calm down.
: i wasn't acting 100% professional this morning, because she made up
: something. but i was cool, and express myself.
: at least , she promised in front of my boss, that she won't go after me
: questioning and nagging me anymore.
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: I don't want to make a scene, and I don't want everything goes ugly.
: that is why i came here ask for advice.
: i had to admit. i was mad when i threw this thread. but after seeing some
: warm hearted suggestion. i calm down.
: i wasn't acting 100% professional this morning, because she made up
: something. but i was cool, and express myself.
: at least , she promised in front of my boss, that she won't go after me
: questioning and nagging me anymore.
l*s
44 楼
问题技术员为什么要和自己一个国家的博士后过不去呢?我很不理解。
o*o
46 楼
Make friends. Best way to get rid of a mean colleague is to make friend with
him or her. It's actually easier and beneficial than any other method you
can think of. If you fight, you are no better than the one you are fighting
against. Most people just don't get it there's no substantial benefit worth
fighting for.
新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。之后她又处处针
对我,我没主动惹过她,多........
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【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
him or her. It's actually easier and beneficial than any other method you
can think of. If you fight, you are no better than the one you are fighting
against. Most people just don't get it there's no substantial benefit worth
fighting for.
新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。之后她又处处针
对我,我没主动惹过她,多........
★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 3.8 - iPhone Lite
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
t*e
47 楼
不知道为啥,看到这种说话中文里夹杂英语的就想吐!你要么全中文要么全英语,一句
话说得不洋不土真的很别扭!!!
话说得不洋不土真的很别扭!!!
j*a
48 楼
我觉得首先要学会对事不对人。这是一个基本态度,保持这个原则你就可以到老板那儿
有事说事了。
never get emotional,记住这点。不要说任何针对人的话,陈述事实,并且保持你的
态度
calm,平和,让老板觉得首先你是一个reasonable的人。
另外平时注意和这个人相处的细节,比如她说你不打招呼啥的,你就非常大放热情的大
声和她说一
次,如果她没有任何response,立即记下日期时间你说了啥。以后这是你的证据,越
detail越好。
工作细节也是一样,你一定要首先做到极致。比如她总是追问你are you sure。你就要
不厌其烦的
说,i am sure。 这个你说不上她哪儿不是,所以你就要回答她。不然她会反过来
complain你的
工作态度。但是其他事情如果你反复询问过她,但她没有做好或怎样,你要记下细节,
然后准备反击
的时候用。
总之我觉得当别人把你当包子想欺负你的时候,你一定要反击,但一定要反击的smart
。和老板摊派
的时候一定要说事实,不要对人有任何comment。态度要平和,不要表现出被人
irritated. 你越
是calm down,对方越是激动,你越是有利。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for all you guys.
: The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
: can sit down and listen to both side stories.
: after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
: she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
: my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
: response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
: she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
: hear.
: my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
有事说事了。
never get emotional,记住这点。不要说任何针对人的话,陈述事实,并且保持你的
态度
calm,平和,让老板觉得首先你是一个reasonable的人。
另外平时注意和这个人相处的细节,比如她说你不打招呼啥的,你就非常大放热情的大
声和她说一
次,如果她没有任何response,立即记下日期时间你说了啥。以后这是你的证据,越
detail越好。
工作细节也是一样,你一定要首先做到极致。比如她总是追问你are you sure。你就要
不厌其烦的
说,i am sure。 这个你说不上她哪儿不是,所以你就要回答她。不然她会反过来
complain你的
工作态度。但是其他事情如果你反复询问过她,但她没有做好或怎样,你要记下细节,
然后准备反击
的时候用。
总之我觉得当别人把你当包子想欺负你的时候,你一定要反击,但一定要反击的smart
。和老板摊派
的时候一定要说事实,不要对人有任何comment。态度要平和,不要表现出被人
irritated. 你越
是calm down,对方越是激动,你越是有利。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for all you guys.
: The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
: can sit down and listen to both side stories.
: after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
: she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
: my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
: response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
: she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
: hear.
: my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
n*k
49 楼
fuck off, you don't know what you are talking about...Does this sound more
direct and better:)))...Alright alright, thanks...your points are well-taken
...but I suppose I couldn't just go like a jerk saying something blablabla...
frankly in real life, if LZ was my little brother/sister(or a young Chinese
friend around me), I might have just told (or shout out hey...): calm down
and sit back and do some reflections before taking on any stupid actions.
Win or lose, you never know...I am not trying to be 这么装, but to not sound
too tough or rude...but I still offer my not so enjoyable two cents...I
just feel there are so many kids out there who need to grow up and know how
they behave and what they are dealing with(sometimes myself included, that's
why I am still learning and sometimes I 这么装 because I am not even 100%
sure what I am talking about)...Sorry being rudely frank on this point...
Anyhow, I am not discouraging people to stand up and fight...but one needs
to know what he/she is doing and stands on a solid ground...even that, still
need to know how to pick a fight...when what and how...and finally retreat
and step aside....Otherwise win is as bad as a lose...
As for this particular case, after reading through all his/her responses, I
have a picture(could well be wrong):
He/she is young and not good with interpersonal skills, presumably not a
bad but inexperience individual..
.the tech could be a typical tech or could be a really nasty person..anyhow
still I don't quite have a grasp...
Bottomline, with all those who encourage him/her to fight, what do you/we
really want him/her to get out of this...it is easy to lash out but then
what? I guess none of us behind the network need to suffer the consequences
whatever it could be...It was with that particular thought I decided to
speak the other side, otherwise why would I/we care...Is it any benefit to
win over a tech who is in charge of the order and has been in the lab for
over 15ys...think it twice..IF if she/he is particularly/plainly nasty, I
don't see how she/he could be there for so long, and I don't see why the LZ
would want to fight with her, and what the LZ really want to get out from
the fight, is it worth a fight?
尽量不要对别人本身太judgmental。 no offense...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 一直觉得你的帖子还挺有参考价值的,就是读起来怎么都觉得不爽,宁可听LZ这种似乎
: 不怎么professional的语言还舒服点。行文能不能不用这么装?我们说对事不对人,尽量不要对别人本身太judgmental。 no offense...
:
:
: am
: are
: as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
: talking.
: ..
direct and better:)))...Alright alright, thanks...your points are well-taken
...but I suppose I couldn't just go like a jerk saying something blablabla...
frankly in real life, if LZ was my little brother/sister(or a young Chinese
friend around me), I might have just told (or shout out hey...): calm down
and sit back and do some reflections before taking on any stupid actions.
Win or lose, you never know...I am not trying to be 这么装, but to not sound
too tough or rude...but I still offer my not so enjoyable two cents...I
just feel there are so many kids out there who need to grow up and know how
they behave and what they are dealing with(sometimes myself included, that's
why I am still learning and sometimes I 这么装 because I am not even 100%
sure what I am talking about)...Sorry being rudely frank on this point...
Anyhow, I am not discouraging people to stand up and fight...but one needs
to know what he/she is doing and stands on a solid ground...even that, still
need to know how to pick a fight...when what and how...and finally retreat
and step aside....Otherwise win is as bad as a lose...
As for this particular case, after reading through all his/her responses, I
have a picture(could well be wrong):
He/she is young and not good with interpersonal skills, presumably not a
bad but inexperience individual..
.the tech could be a typical tech or could be a really nasty person..anyhow
still I don't quite have a grasp...
Bottomline, with all those who encourage him/her to fight, what do you/we
really want him/her to get out of this...it is easy to lash out but then
what? I guess none of us behind the network need to suffer the consequences
whatever it could be...It was with that particular thought I decided to
speak the other side, otherwise why would I/we care...Is it any benefit to
win over a tech who is in charge of the order and has been in the lab for
over 15ys...think it twice..IF if she/he is particularly/plainly nasty, I
don't see how she/he could be there for so long, and I don't see why the LZ
would want to fight with her, and what the LZ really want to get out from
the fight, is it worth a fight?
尽量不要对别人本身太judgmental。 no offense...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 一直觉得你的帖子还挺有参考价值的,就是读起来怎么都觉得不爽,宁可听LZ这种似乎
: 不怎么professional的语言还舒服点。行文能不能不用这么装?我们说对事不对人,尽量不要对别人本身太judgmental。 no offense...
:
:
: am
: are
: as a new person and don't seem to know who they are...
: talking.
: ..
p*y
51 楼
看她的说辞好像也蛮委屈的样子啊,那你们俩握手言欢吧,以前的事不要计较了,
以后你看到她多笑笑,笑脸迎人,没人不喜欢的,她想跟你生气也气不起来。
圣诞节快到了,也可以准备点小礼物给实验室的人,包括她一份,大家开心一下,
你表达了足够善意,除非她是大恶人,不会不改变态度的,
哪怕无法成为朋友,起码可以和平同事。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for all you guys.
: The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
: can sit down and listen to both side stories.
: after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
: she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
: my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
: response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
: she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
: hear.
: my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
以后你看到她多笑笑,笑脸迎人,没人不喜欢的,她想跟你生气也气不起来。
圣诞节快到了,也可以准备点小礼物给实验室的人,包括她一份,大家开心一下,
你表达了足够善意,除非她是大恶人,不会不改变态度的,
哪怕无法成为朋友,起码可以和平同事。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: Thank you for all you guys.
: The talk had been done. Not smooth. But I am glad my boss
: can sit down and listen to both side stories.
: after clearing the mice problem, things went like this:
: she started complaining me that I didn't talk to her all the time.
: my response is i said " hi how are u doing like 10 times, she made no
: response. that is why i stop making small talk with her. "
: she said, she had hearing problem and my voice is too low and soft to
: hear.
: my complain is "stop asking me same questions 10 times , and stop saying
s*y
53 楼
这个我赞成。
因为楼主和她以后相处的时间还长的很,不要把关系闹得太僵
我觉得那个技术员其实就是想确立一下自己的authority 而已。
她和楼主说什么,比方说动物之类的,楼主其实可以就说:
我听明白了,我会对此小心的。就是装一下尊敬她的样子,其实就好了。
【在 p****y 的大作中提到】
: 看她的说辞好像也蛮委屈的样子啊,那你们俩握手言欢吧,以前的事不要计较了,
: 以后你看到她多笑笑,笑脸迎人,没人不喜欢的,她想跟你生气也气不起来。
: 圣诞节快到了,也可以准备点小礼物给实验室的人,包括她一份,大家开心一下,
: 你表达了足够善意,除非她是大恶人,不会不改变态度的,
: 哪怕无法成为朋友,起码可以和平同事。
因为楼主和她以后相处的时间还长的很,不要把关系闹得太僵
我觉得那个技术员其实就是想确立一下自己的authority 而已。
她和楼主说什么,比方说动物之类的,楼主其实可以就说:
我听明白了,我会对此小心的。就是装一下尊敬她的样子,其实就好了。
【在 p****y 的大作中提到】
: 看她的说辞好像也蛮委屈的样子啊,那你们俩握手言欢吧,以前的事不要计较了,
: 以后你看到她多笑笑,笑脸迎人,没人不喜欢的,她想跟你生气也气不起来。
: 圣诞节快到了,也可以准备点小礼物给实验室的人,包括她一份,大家开心一下,
: 你表达了足够善意,除非她是大恶人,不会不改变态度的,
: 哪怕无法成为朋友,起码可以和平同事。
g*n
54 楼
您那个退休金没有save draft 功能?
OK OK,切入主题。对别人最好的回击不是提高嗓门。切记切记。而是观察她的软肋,
至于是否出手,到什么程度,这个要因地制宜。自己衡量。
话虽这么说,估计15年的老tech,正处于更年期的血脉不通。而你又是年轻气盛。自然
容易扯出火花。
所以我请楼主还是算了。让老板尽量工作中安排少接触她的机会。另外如果老板无能为
力,换个实验室也许有必要。
你是研究生,还是博后呀?刚来的研究生换组还是相对容易的。
OK OK,切入主题。对别人最好的回击不是提高嗓门。切记切记。而是观察她的软肋,
至于是否出手,到什么程度,这个要因地制宜。自己衡量。
话虽这么说,估计15年的老tech,正处于更年期的血脉不通。而你又是年轻气盛。自然
容易扯出火花。
所以我请楼主还是算了。让老板尽量工作中安排少接触她的机会。另外如果老板无能为
力,换个实验室也许有必要。
你是研究生,还是博后呀?刚来的研究生换组还是相对容易的。
w*e
55 楼
耶----------,nerverthink说中文啦--------
I am not trying to be 这么装,
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【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: fuck off, you don't know what you are talking about...Does this sound more
: direct and better:)))...Alright alright, thanks...your points are well-taken
: ...but I suppose I couldn't just go like a jerk saying something blablabla...
: frankly in real life, if LZ was my little brother/sister(or a young Chinese
: friend around me), I might have just told (or shout out hey...): calm down
: and sit back and do some reflections before taking on any stupid actions.
: Win or lose, you never know...I am not trying to be 这么装, but to not sound
: too tough or rude...but I still offer my not so enjoyable two cents...I
: just feel there are so many kids out there who need to grow up and know how
: they behave and what they are dealing with(sometimes myself included, that's
I am not trying to be 这么装,
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【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: fuck off, you don't know what you are talking about...Does this sound more
: direct and better:)))...Alright alright, thanks...your points are well-taken
: ...but I suppose I couldn't just go like a jerk saying something blablabla...
: frankly in real life, if LZ was my little brother/sister(or a young Chinese
: friend around me), I might have just told (or shout out hey...): calm down
: and sit back and do some reflections before taking on any stupid actions.
: Win or lose, you never know...I am not trying to be 这么装, but to not sound
: too tough or rude...but I still offer my not so enjoyable two cents...I
: just feel there are so many kids out there who need to grow up and know how
: they behave and what they are dealing with(sometimes myself included, that's
s*2
58 楼
我想知道她是不是处于更年期。
f*j
59 楼
首先:不能生气,尤其是在你的老板面前,老板说什么,不要解释,不要顶撞,永远顺
从,承认
自己刚来,有些事情还不太熟悉,自己会慢慢学,态度一定要诚恳,老板最喜欢听话的
孩子。
其次:恭喜你,你遇到了人渣&极品,中国人在一个lab容易竞争,最好的保全自己的方
法:示
弱,适当的时候出击,打的她眼冒金星,鼻血四溅,以其人之道还治其人之身,心理上
也没必要
内疚,因为,毕竟你揍的是个jp&人渣。。。
最后:能跟这样的人不相处,以后就别相处了,有些人就是这样,能相处就好好相处,
不能相处
就算了,不必勉强。。。
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
从,承认
自己刚来,有些事情还不太熟悉,自己会慢慢学,态度一定要诚恳,老板最喜欢听话的
孩子。
其次:恭喜你,你遇到了人渣&极品,中国人在一个lab容易竞争,最好的保全自己的方
法:示
弱,适当的时候出击,打的她眼冒金星,鼻血四溅,以其人之道还治其人之身,心理上
也没必要
内疚,因为,毕竟你揍的是个jp&人渣。。。
最后:能跟这样的人不相处,以后就别相处了,有些人就是这样,能相处就好好相处,
不能相处
就算了,不必勉强。。。
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
A*r
60 楼
没啥可吵的,之前我们实验室一个人去我老板那里告我状,后来才听说还告了好几回,
(我是后来我老板炒了他之后,我才听说的)。他告了好几回以后,我老板说他要是再
告我的状,他就走人好了,他就再也没敢告状啥的。我是没告过他的状,他在实验室说
得过分的一次,我去跟老板哭了一下而已。大家都是混完饭吃,何必呢,弄得鱼死网破
的,也是毫无必要。
跟老板说话的时候,1)老板最大,2)心平气和,就事论事。不要添油加醋地说别人不
好,反而会更糟糕。
(我是后来我老板炒了他之后,我才听说的)。他告了好几回以后,我老板说他要是再
告我的状,他就走人好了,他就再也没敢告状啥的。我是没告过他的状,他在实验室说
得过分的一次,我去跟老板哭了一下而已。大家都是混完饭吃,何必呢,弄得鱼死网破
的,也是毫无必要。
跟老板说话的时候,1)老板最大,2)心平气和,就事论事。不要添油加醋地说别人不
好,反而会更糟糕。
s*r
64 楼
为啥用her呢
呼唤技术员出场
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
呼唤技术员出场
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
j*x
66 楼
码这么多字不容易,但是感觉你没明白我的意思,或者说,你其实根本不在乎别人的本
意,你关心的只是表达你自己的独特“观点”。
网络上的言论往往是带有情绪的,和生活中的真实表现往往并不一致,更何况这是
MITBBS,太多生活中衣冠楚楚有头有脸的“名流”在这里宣泄,您混这里的日子比我久
,应该比我清楚地多吧。所以要是你把这里的语言和表述照搬到发帖人的日常生活,自
然后借此品评别人,即便不是用来显示自己的与众不同或者卓然不群,也会让人(确切
地说是让我)觉得有些装腔作势。其实,你每次的“no offense”“frankly”等等看
似有品的言辞后面,总会让我感概,这个jerk!你的“not too tough or rude”的语
言背后,其实给我的感觉是充斥着personal或者高人一等的优越感,对于别人并没有什
么实质性的帮助,只是自我满足而已。
当然,这只是我自己的感觉,如果我误解您了,很抱歉。我也只是想表达我自己的观点
而已,no offense。
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【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: fuck off, you don't know what you are talking about...Does this sound more
: direct and better:)))...Alright alright, thanks...your points are well-taken
: ...but I suppose I couldn't just go like a jerk saying something blablabla...
: frankly in real life, if LZ was my little brother/sister(or a young Chinese
: friend around me), I might have just told (or shout out hey...): calm down
: and sit back and do some reflections before taking on any stupid actions.
: Win or lose, you never know...I am not trying to be 这么装, but to not sound
: too tough or rude...but I still offer my not so enjoyable two cents...I
: just feel there are so many kids out there who need to grow up and know how
: they behave and what they are dealing with(sometimes myself included, that's
意,你关心的只是表达你自己的独特“观点”。
网络上的言论往往是带有情绪的,和生活中的真实表现往往并不一致,更何况这是
MITBBS,太多生活中衣冠楚楚有头有脸的“名流”在这里宣泄,您混这里的日子比我久
,应该比我清楚地多吧。所以要是你把这里的语言和表述照搬到发帖人的日常生活,自
然后借此品评别人,即便不是用来显示自己的与众不同或者卓然不群,也会让人(确切
地说是让我)觉得有些装腔作势。其实,你每次的“no offense”“frankly”等等看
似有品的言辞后面,总会让我感概,这个jerk!你的“not too tough or rude”的语
言背后,其实给我的感觉是充斥着personal或者高人一等的优越感,对于别人并没有什
么实质性的帮助,只是自我满足而已。
当然,这只是我自己的感觉,如果我误解您了,很抱歉。我也只是想表达我自己的观点
而已,no offense。
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: fuck off, you don't know what you are talking about...Does this sound more
: direct and better:)))...Alright alright, thanks...your points are well-taken
: ...but I suppose I couldn't just go like a jerk saying something blablabla...
: frankly in real life, if LZ was my little brother/sister(or a young Chinese
: friend around me), I might have just told (or shout out hey...): calm down
: and sit back and do some reflections before taking on any stupid actions.
: Win or lose, you never know...I am not trying to be 这么装, but to not sound
: too tough or rude...but I still offer my not so enjoyable two cents...I
: just feel there are so many kids out there who need to grow up and know how
: they behave and what they are dealing with(sometimes myself included, that's
D*a
67 楼
注意留证据吧,有什么事情email里面说,或者夹在email里面说,但是没必要整天cc老
板,除非她再整你
板,除非她再整你
E*C
68 楼
我再回头一想,她昨天在老板跟前撒拉很多谎,以丑化我,美化她自己。
她说我当时是像她要求再继续使用2小时,而不是2分钟,所以她才说,不让我用。等等
等等。反正把我说成一个JERK。
我当时觉得她太荒唐,懒得和她争辩
现在细想一下,真是非常生气,她真是太无耻了。
她说我当时是像她要求再继续使用2小时,而不是2分钟,所以她才说,不让我用。等等
等等。反正把我说成一个JERK。
我当时觉得她太荒唐,懒得和她争辩
现在细想一下,真是非常生气,她真是太无耻了。
E*C
69 楼
楼上那些为我担心,真心出主意的朋友,我这里谢谢你们。可惜我不灌水,没包子可以
发,就这里送出我新年祝福吧。祝各位新年交好运!事业顺利,家庭幸福,不要像我这
样,惹到小人。
个别一上来就说我不是“好货”的网友,恕我没时间回复了。
要是我爱talk back,遇到一点委屈就反击,我这次就不会觉得自己冤枉了。
发,就这里送出我新年祝福吧。祝各位新年交好运!事业顺利,家庭幸福,不要像我这
样,惹到小人。
个别一上来就说我不是“好货”的网友,恕我没时间回复了。
要是我爱talk back,遇到一点委屈就反击,我这次就不会觉得自己冤枉了。
S*s
70 楼
很简单,告诉你的老板,她影响了你的工作,导致你无法focus。正常情况下,老板会
叫大家都back off。这也是你想要的。从此你就是独行大侠一个,爽。。。
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
叫大家都back off。这也是你想要的。从此你就是独行大侠一个,爽。。。
时候
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。
: 之后她又处处针对我,我没主动惹过她,多数时候她欺负我,我都忍了,因为要找她订
: 东西。
: 谁知道这死女人变本加厉,凡事只要我说,她都马上追问“are you sure? 之类的,追
: 问2遍以上,我自认没什么过失被她抓,她这么问我当然不爽。就不理她。
: 之后,丫居然在我要用动物的时候,跑过来说,动物要可着一个韩国人用,我用的时候
: 要和韩国人商量,我就告诉她,我和韩国人用的不是一种动物,还拉韩国人来证明,她
: 就是不听,不停地说,我要先征求韩国人同意。
: 我就操了!我和韩国人平级。各干各的活,我干嘛要征求韩国人同意?
n*k
71 楼
Hey, another neverthink-like jackass(shall I say), You got me! Alright,
thanks for your critics...All I respond is what people (you and me included)
say or perceive reflect what/who they are and where they come from...So for
some of the points you eluded to, feel free to take it whatever way you(or
anyone) will...do I care? perhaps--does it matter? not at all...
BTW, Yes, you are absolutely right, I only answer to my own heart...I don't
treat network that different from the real life; if anything, I in general
execute more self-discipline as I treat it equally as a public place...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 码这么多字不容易,但是感觉你没明白我的意思,或者说,你其实根本不在乎别人的本
: 意,你关心的只是表达你自己的独特“观点”。
: 网络上的言论往往是带有情绪的,和生活中的真实表现往往并不一致,更何况这是
: MITBBS,太多生活中衣冠楚楚有头有脸的“名流”在这里宣泄,您混这里的日子比我久
: ,应该比我清楚地多吧。所以要是你把这里的语言和表述照搬到发帖人的日常生活,自
: 然后借此品评别人,即便不是用来显示自己的与众不同或者卓然不群,也会让人(确切
: 地说是让我)觉得有些装腔作势。其实,你每次的“no offense”“frankly”等等看
: 似有品的言辞后面,总会让我感概,这个jerk!你的“not too tough or rude”的语
: 言背后,其实给我的感觉是充斥着personal或者高人一等的优越感,对于别人并没有什
: 么实质性的帮助,只是自我满足而已。
thanks for your critics...All I respond is what people (you and me included)
say or perceive reflect what/who they are and where they come from...So for
some of the points you eluded to, feel free to take it whatever way you(or
anyone) will...do I care? perhaps--does it matter? not at all...
BTW, Yes, you are absolutely right, I only answer to my own heart...I don't
treat network that different from the real life; if anything, I in general
execute more self-discipline as I treat it equally as a public place...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 码这么多字不容易,但是感觉你没明白我的意思,或者说,你其实根本不在乎别人的本
: 意,你关心的只是表达你自己的独特“观点”。
: 网络上的言论往往是带有情绪的,和生活中的真实表现往往并不一致,更何况这是
: MITBBS,太多生活中衣冠楚楚有头有脸的“名流”在这里宣泄,您混这里的日子比我久
: ,应该比我清楚地多吧。所以要是你把这里的语言和表述照搬到发帖人的日常生活,自
: 然后借此品评别人,即便不是用来显示自己的与众不同或者卓然不群,也会让人(确切
: 地说是让我)觉得有些装腔作势。其实,你每次的“no offense”“frankly”等等看
: 似有品的言辞后面,总会让我感概,这个jerk!你的“not too tough or rude”的语
: 言背后,其实给我的感觉是充斥着personal或者高人一等的优越感,对于别人并没有什
: 么实质性的帮助,只是自我满足而已。
n*k
72 楼
BTW, was you the one who posted to ask about being the sole-first author on
a collaborative study? I hope I didn't step on your toes last time...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 码这么多字不容易,但是感觉你没明白我的意思,或者说,你其实根本不在乎别人的本
: 意,你关心的只是表达你自己的独特“观点”。
: 网络上的言论往往是带有情绪的,和生活中的真实表现往往并不一致,更何况这是
: MITBBS,太多生活中衣冠楚楚有头有脸的“名流”在这里宣泄,您混这里的日子比我久
: ,应该比我清楚地多吧。所以要是你把这里的语言和表述照搬到发帖人的日常生活,自
: 然后借此品评别人,即便不是用来显示自己的与众不同或者卓然不群,也会让人(确切
: 地说是让我)觉得有些装腔作势。其实,你每次的“no offense”“frankly”等等看
: 似有品的言辞后面,总会让我感概,这个jerk!你的“not too tough or rude”的语
: 言背后,其实给我的感觉是充斥着personal或者高人一等的优越感,对于别人并没有什
: 么实质性的帮助,只是自我满足而已。
a collaborative study? I hope I didn't step on your toes last time...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 码这么多字不容易,但是感觉你没明白我的意思,或者说,你其实根本不在乎别人的本
: 意,你关心的只是表达你自己的独特“观点”。
: 网络上的言论往往是带有情绪的,和生活中的真实表现往往并不一致,更何况这是
: MITBBS,太多生活中衣冠楚楚有头有脸的“名流”在这里宣泄,您混这里的日子比我久
: ,应该比我清楚地多吧。所以要是你把这里的语言和表述照搬到发帖人的日常生活,自
: 然后借此品评别人,即便不是用来显示自己的与众不同或者卓然不群,也会让人(确切
: 地说是让我)觉得有些装腔作势。其实,你每次的“no offense”“frankly”等等看
: 似有品的言辞后面,总会让我感概,这个jerk!你的“not too tough or rude”的语
: 言背后,其实给我的感觉是充斥着personal或者高人一等的优越感,对于别人并没有什
: 么实质性的帮助,只是自我满足而已。
s*p
73 楼
我对付mean同事的心得:
(1)既然低头不见抬头见,一定要见面打招呼。否则外人会觉得你们尴尬。
(2)对方说些不nice的话,要么反击,要么用表情表示不满。
(3)大多数情况下ignore对方。高兴的时候不妨聊聊天
(4)对方有错的时候,选择几个代表性的例子无情地打击。其它情况,有时候就给对方
面子啦。
总之,就是把关系要定位在:OK,我们个人之间相处不好。但是表面上、工作上还是要
做走,不能妨碍正常工作。这个状态就OK啦。
with
fighting
worth
【在 o**o 的大作中提到】
: Make friends. Best way to get rid of a mean colleague is to make friend with
: him or her. It's actually easier and beneficial than any other method you
: can think of. If you fight, you are no better than the one you are fighting
: against. Most people just don't get it there's no substantial benefit worth
: fighting for.
:
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。之后她又处处针
: 对我,我没主动惹过她,多........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 3.8 - iPhone Lite
(1)既然低头不见抬头见,一定要见面打招呼。否则外人会觉得你们尴尬。
(2)对方说些不nice的话,要么反击,要么用表情表示不满。
(3)大多数情况下ignore对方。高兴的时候不妨聊聊天
(4)对方有错的时候,选择几个代表性的例子无情地打击。其它情况,有时候就给对方
面子啦。
总之,就是把关系要定位在:OK,我们个人之间相处不好。但是表面上、工作上还是要
做走,不能妨碍正常工作。这个状态就OK啦。
with
fighting
worth
【在 o**o 的大作中提到】
: Make friends. Best way to get rid of a mean colleague is to make friend with
: him or her. It's actually easier and beneficial than any other method you
: can think of. If you fight, you are no better than the one you are fighting
: against. Most people just don't get it there's no substantial benefit worth
: fighting for.
:
: 新单位,只有我和实验员是中国人。开始我还觉得至少有个同胞,可以私下了解一下单
: 位的情况。谁知道刚工作就被她设个绊子,第一个月的退休金就没了。之后她又处处针
: 对我,我没主动惹过她,多........
: ★ Sent from iPhone App: iReader Mitbbs 3.8 - iPhone Lite
t*n
74 楼
Good point. I have seen some Chinese feel better when they see other ones in
bad situations or bad luck, which is kind of their life philosephy.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 这件事情,
: 首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
: 第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
: 第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
: 知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
: 你就不要提这件事情。
: 第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
: 干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
: 需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
: 我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
bad situations or bad luck, which is kind of their life philosephy.
【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 这件事情,
: 首先,你一定要非常professional 的样子,反复强调你仅仅是为了工作。
: 第二,绝对不要生气,就说你不理解她为什么生气。
: 第三,首先问一下你的老板,是否想知道当时发生了什么事情,如果他说想
: 知道的话,你就心平气和的,把当时的情形描述一边。如果他说不想知道的话,
: 你就不要提这件事情。
: 第四,给她留一点台阶下,大度的告诉老板说,也许因为你新来,不知道她的
: 干活风格,就说你在以前的单位从来没有和别人有合作上的矛盾,可能只是
: 需要时间来适应那个技术员的风格。
: 我想,因为你刚刚来,最好不要太aggressive, 等你有一些成就了,那个家伙就
j*x
75 楼
呵呵,希望你真的知道,what/who you are, and where you come from.
我说的很清楚,对你的很多建议我认为可取。但是有时候对人不对事的态度,让人反感
。跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive,这就是所谓的自律?生活中也这样
子?hoho
至于你care不care,其实我也和你的想法一样。码字不容易,辛苦了。
included)
for
or
t
general
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, another neverthink-like jackass(shall I say), You got me! Alright,
: thanks for your critics...All I respond is what people (you and me included)
: say or perceive reflect what/who they are and where they come from...So for
: some of the points you eluded to, feel free to take it whatever way you(or
: anyone) will...do I care? perhaps--does it matter? not at all...
: BTW, Yes, you are absolutely right, I only answer to my own heart...I don't
: treat network that different from the real life; if anything, I in general
: execute more self-discipline as I treat it equally as a public place...
我说的很清楚,对你的很多建议我认为可取。但是有时候对人不对事的态度,让人反感
。跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive,这就是所谓的自律?生活中也这样
子?hoho
至于你care不care,其实我也和你的想法一样。码字不容易,辛苦了。
included)
for
or
t
general
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, another neverthink-like jackass(shall I say), You got me! Alright,
: thanks for your critics...All I respond is what people (you and me included)
: say or perceive reflect what/who they are and where they come from...So for
: some of the points you eluded to, feel free to take it whatever way you(or
: anyone) will...do I care? perhaps--does it matter? not at all...
: BTW, Yes, you are absolutely right, I only answer to my own heart...I don't
: treat network that different from the real life; if anything, I in general
: execute more self-discipline as I treat it equally as a public place...
L*O
77 楼
I understand your feelings totally... I am still learning this kind of stuff
..
I was so angry when someone shouted at me but it was NOT my fault, so angry
when someone asked me to stop using the shared computer because she wanna
use it, so angry when I was looked down upon because I am a Chinese...
I don't know what to do in most of the cases.. I just walked away, tried
very hard to smile when I saw this kind of B**** again. I told myself
several times, I am low... I am just a student... I have to remember all the
words the teacher told us before we were the interns in the hospital---"the
interns are the lowest people in the hospital"...
It seems that what I can do is to remember the best thing those B**** did
and to be grateful and respectful as much as possible. And try to be Nice,
and nicer... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh FML!!!!!
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 我再回头一想,她昨天在老板跟前撒拉很多谎,以丑化我,美化她自己。
: 她说我当时是像她要求再继续使用2小时,而不是2分钟,所以她才说,不让我用。等等
: 等等。反正把我说成一个JERK。
: 我当时觉得她太荒唐,懒得和她争辩
: 现在细想一下,真是非常生气,她真是太无耻了。
..
I was so angry when someone shouted at me but it was NOT my fault, so angry
when someone asked me to stop using the shared computer because she wanna
use it, so angry when I was looked down upon because I am a Chinese...
I don't know what to do in most of the cases.. I just walked away, tried
very hard to smile when I saw this kind of B**** again. I told myself
several times, I am low... I am just a student... I have to remember all the
words the teacher told us before we were the interns in the hospital---"the
interns are the lowest people in the hospital"...
It seems that what I can do is to remember the best thing those B**** did
and to be grateful and respectful as much as possible. And try to be Nice,
and nicer... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh FML!!!!!
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: 我再回头一想,她昨天在老板跟前撒拉很多谎,以丑化我,美化她自己。
: 她说我当时是像她要求再继续使用2小时,而不是2分钟,所以她才说,不让我用。等等
: 等等。反正把我说成一个JERK。
: 我当时觉得她太荒唐,懒得和她争辩
: 现在细想一下,真是非常生气,她真是太无耻了。
j*a
78 楼
I can't type Chinese in office.. but I can't help myself saying I SO AGREE
WITH YOU!
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,希望你真的知道,what/who you are, and where you come from.
: 我说的很清楚,对你的很多建议我认为可取。但是有时候对人不对事的态度,让人反感
: 。跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive,这就是所谓的自律?生活中也这样
: 子?hoho
: 至于你care不care,其实我也和你的想法一样。码字不容易,辛苦了。
:
: included)
: for
: or
: t
WITH YOU!
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,希望你真的知道,what/who you are, and where you come from.
: 我说的很清楚,对你的很多建议我认为可取。但是有时候对人不对事的态度,让人反感
: 。跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive,这就是所谓的自律?生活中也这样
: 子?hoho
: 至于你care不care,其实我也和你的想法一样。码字不容易,辛苦了。
:
: included)
: for
: or
: t
j*a
79 楼
be honest, i think unless you treat yourself right, nobody will do. The way
you treat yourself will reflect on how others treat you. Remember this. I
learn this from my own many years of experience here. Believe me, I've met
many many white axxhole here, female mostly. I've responded in the same way
as you described here. It didn't work. It only hurts myself. Once, I fought
back, and from then on, I was treated differently. They may still dislike
you, don't accept you. but they know you are not weak. And they won't shit
on you easily. To my fellow Chinese, I really want to say, step out! For
example, next time, people asked you to leave the shared computer for them,
you say calmly " wait till I finish, okay?" or "first come first serve, wait
for a second". Then you continue using your computer till you are really
done. When you say this, stare back at people, right at their eyes, don't be
timid, don't be irritated, just calm, don't show your enemy any emotion.
When you are cool, you are strong in their eyes.
Remember, you have the equal right as they do.
stuff
angry
the
the
【在 L**********O 的大作中提到】
: I understand your feelings totally... I am still learning this kind of stuff
: ..
: I was so angry when someone shouted at me but it was NOT my fault, so angry
: when someone asked me to stop using the shared computer because she wanna
: use it, so angry when I was looked down upon because I am a Chinese...
: I don't know what to do in most of the cases.. I just walked away, tried
: very hard to smile when I saw this kind of B**** again. I told myself
: several times, I am low... I am just a student... I have to remember all the
: words the teacher told us before we were the interns in the hospital---"the
: interns are the lowest people in the hospital"...
you treat yourself will reflect on how others treat you. Remember this. I
learn this from my own many years of experience here. Believe me, I've met
many many white axxhole here, female mostly. I've responded in the same way
as you described here. It didn't work. It only hurts myself. Once, I fought
back, and from then on, I was treated differently. They may still dislike
you, don't accept you. but they know you are not weak. And they won't shit
on you easily. To my fellow Chinese, I really want to say, step out! For
example, next time, people asked you to leave the shared computer for them,
you say calmly " wait till I finish, okay?" or "first come first serve, wait
for a second". Then you continue using your computer till you are really
done. When you say this, stare back at people, right at their eyes, don't be
timid, don't be irritated, just calm, don't show your enemy any emotion.
When you are cool, you are strong in their eyes.
Remember, you have the equal right as they do.
stuff
angry
the
the
【在 L**********O 的大作中提到】
: I understand your feelings totally... I am still learning this kind of stuff
: ..
: I was so angry when someone shouted at me but it was NOT my fault, so angry
: when someone asked me to stop using the shared computer because she wanna
: use it, so angry when I was looked down upon because I am a Chinese...
: I don't know what to do in most of the cases.. I just walked away, tried
: very hard to smile when I saw this kind of B**** again. I told myself
: several times, I am low... I am just a student... I have to remember all the
: words the teacher told us before we were the interns in the hospital---"the
: interns are the lowest people in the hospital"...
p*4
81 楼
挺理解lz的,我一个好朋友工作中有个中国人也差不多,就是看不得别人好,还总是背
后说我朋友的坏话。不过也要保持好的心态,不要和这种人生气,全当磨练意志好了,
哈哈。
后说我朋友的坏话。不过也要保持好的心态,不要和这种人生气,全当磨练意志好了,
哈哈。
n*k
82 楼
Hey, there, this is too much...
You know what---Don;t be a coward or liar...I hope you are not Yiyun Li---
the one who sell her soul for American Dream, or you should have defended
yourself in that thread or attack me there....so coward hiding behind the
network and seeking chances to attack others...I might be sick but I am not
A COWARD who sells...
BTW, liar, tell me where you find 总是爱讲脏话, except the Yiyun Li's case,
let me know where I have...
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
:
: 你是说neverthink吗?我觉得他不是更年期。应该更多是性格的原因吧。
: 他是比较像更年期的人那样总是不耐烦,总是爱讲脏话,总是怒气冲冲的。但更年期的
: 人一般不会像他
: 那样总是盛气凌人。
: 生活中也会遇到有这样比较糟糕性格的人,但是比较少。在网上见得比较多,网上一般
: 都会比较少顾
: 忌。
You know what---Don;t be a coward or liar...I hope you are not Yiyun Li---
the one who sell her soul for American Dream, or you should have defended
yourself in that thread or attack me there....so coward hiding behind the
network and seeking chances to attack others...I might be sick but I am not
A COWARD who sells...
BTW, liar, tell me where you find 总是爱讲脏话, except the Yiyun Li's case,
let me know where I have...
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
:
: 你是说neverthink吗?我觉得他不是更年期。应该更多是性格的原因吧。
: 他是比较像更年期的人那样总是不耐烦,总是爱讲脏话,总是怒气冲冲的。但更年期的
: 人一般不会像他
: 那样总是盛气凌人。
: 生活中也会遇到有这样比较糟糕性格的人,但是比较少。在网上见得比较多,网上一般
: 都会比较少顾
: 忌。
n*k
83 楼
跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive
here you go, Man, you really have a good memory, don't you? Anyhow, you don'
t have to be sore/hide the resentment for so long---anyhow, I am sorry if I
have hurt you in that thread...
you should have known better that your post/intent in that thread was just
a little bit short of being despicable...My very short response(Frankly I
didn't even feel like to respond as your selfish post was rather bad) was
not even among the real harsh ones, right? Can you remember how many IDs
responded to your selfishness/ego with criticism? I doubt whether you
really have learned...
End of this discussion...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,希望你真的知道,what/who you are, and where you come from.
: 我说的很清楚,对你的很多建议我认为可取。但是有时候对人不对事的态度,让人反感
: 。跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive,这就是所谓的自律?生活中也这样
: 子?hoho
: 至于你care不care,其实我也和你的想法一样。码字不容易,辛苦了。
:
: included)
: for
: or
: t
here you go, Man, you really have a good memory, don't you? Anyhow, you don'
t have to be sore/hide the resentment for so long---anyhow, I am sorry if I
have hurt you in that thread...
you should have known better that your post/intent in that thread was just
a little bit short of being despicable...My very short response(Frankly I
didn't even feel like to respond as your selfish post was rather bad) was
not even among the real harsh ones, right? Can you remember how many IDs
responded to your selfishness/ego with criticism? I doubt whether you
really have learned...
End of this discussion...
【在 j****x 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵,希望你真的知道,what/who you are, and where you come from.
: 我说的很清楚,对你的很多建议我认为可取。但是有时候对人不对事的态度,让人反感
: 。跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive,这就是所谓的自律?生活中也这样
: 子?hoho
: 至于你care不care,其实我也和你的想法一样。码字不容易,辛苦了。
:
: included)
: for
: or
: t
n*k
84 楼
Sounds perfect...but I nonetheless have a question for you: How come you
always run across such scenarios?...Make
friends not enemy, folks! BTW, you don't have to remind me that I made so
many enemies here already...if that's the case, so be it..
way
I
met
way
fought
,
wait
【在 j*****a 的大作中提到】
: be honest, i think unless you treat yourself right, nobody will do. The way
: you treat yourself will reflect on how others treat you. Remember this. I
: learn this from my own many years of experience here. Believe me, I've met
: many many white axxhole here, female mostly. I've responded in the same way
: as you described here. It didn't work. It only hurts myself. Once, I fought
: back, and from then on, I was treated differently. They may still dislike
: you, don't accept you. but they know you are not weak. And they won't shit
: on you easily. To my fellow Chinese, I really want to say, step out! For
: example, next time, people asked you to leave the shared computer for them,
: you say calmly " wait till I finish, okay?" or "first come first serve, wait
always run across such scenarios?...Make
friends not enemy, folks! BTW, you don't have to remind me that I made so
many enemies here already...if that's the case, so be it..
way
I
met
way
fought
,
wait
【在 j*****a 的大作中提到】
: be honest, i think unless you treat yourself right, nobody will do. The way
: you treat yourself will reflect on how others treat you. Remember this. I
: learn this from my own many years of experience here. Believe me, I've met
: many many white axxhole here, female mostly. I've responded in the same way
: as you described here. It didn't work. It only hurts myself. Once, I fought
: back, and from then on, I was treated differently. They may still dislike
: you, don't accept you. but they know you are not weak. And they won't shit
: on you easily. To my fellow Chinese, I really want to say, step out! For
: example, next time, people asked you to leave the shared computer for them,
: you say calmly " wait till I finish, okay?" or "first come first serve, wait
a*n
85 楼
Li---
defended
the
am not
case,
我怎么一下子就变成coward了,我怎么就成liar了?因为我没实名上网?其他几位跟你
意见不同的
在发帖前给你发信告诉你他们真名了吗?
我怎么才能避免“hiding behind the network and seeking chances to attack
others” 直接给你打电话?我又不是第一个在这个帖子里讨论你态度的,算不上放冷
箭吧?我也就
跟着起起哄。
你为什么执着的认为我是Yiyun Li呢?你真觉得除了li自己就没人替她说话了?
说你“经常说脏话”可能是冤枉你了,毕竟我平时也不总来这儿。应该说你“偶尔讲脏
话”。你有没有发
现除了你别人的帖子很少用“fuck off”开头的。我不够严谨,向你道歉。
你要是觉得我说得不对,你也不用太往心里去。在网上也好,在生活中也好,没必要太
在意别人怎么
评价你。你说呢?
快过节了,我决定不跟你吵下去了。说不明白,你也改不了。祝你节日快乐。祝大家节
日快乐。
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: Hey, there, this is too much...
: You know what---Don;t be a coward or liar...I hope you are not Yiyun Li---
: the one who sell her soul for American Dream, or you should have defended
: yourself in that thread or attack me there....so coward hiding behind the
: network and seeking chances to attack others...I might be sick but I am not
: A COWARD who sells...
: BTW, liar, tell me where you find 总是爱讲脏话, except the Yiyun Li's case,
: let me know where I have...
n*k
86 楼
Could you please read my two posts with fuck off again? I know my English/
communication is horrible but now I know how horrible it is...
BTW, That's right---I believe 100% you也就
跟着起起哄...and it happened that several of 起哄IDs have had some "nice"
posts on which I happened to comment...
Man, I am not sure I have ever been nearly as mean as any of you 起哄IDs...
Oh, for you 起哄IDs's sanity, it is a downtime for me and I apparently ate
too much otherwise I don't even give a dime to whatever you 起哄IDs has to
say about whatever...
Anyway, end of this stupid discussion...
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
:
: Li---
: defended
: the
: am not
: case,
: 我怎么一下子就变成coward了,我怎么就成liar了?因为我没实名上网?其他几位跟你
: 意见不同的
: 在发帖前给你发信告诉你他们真名了吗?
: 我怎么才能避免“hiding behind the network and seeking chances to attack
communication is horrible but now I know how horrible it is...
BTW, That's right---I believe 100% you也就
跟着起起哄...and it happened that several of 起哄IDs have had some "nice"
posts on which I happened to comment...
Man, I am not sure I have ever been nearly as mean as any of you 起哄IDs...
Oh, for you 起哄IDs's sanity, it is a downtime for me and I apparently ate
too much otherwise I don't even give a dime to whatever you 起哄IDs has to
say about whatever...
Anyway, end of this stupid discussion...
【在 a*******n 的大作中提到】
:
: Li---
: defended
: the
: am not
: case,
: 我怎么一下子就变成coward了,我怎么就成liar了?因为我没实名上网?其他几位跟你
: 意见不同的
: 在发帖前给你发信告诉你他们真名了吗?
: 我怎么才能避免“hiding behind the network and seeking chances to attack
a*d
87 楼
calm down, guys...
a*d
89 楼
working on my manuscript now,and taking forever to get a single nice figure.
..
So, no holiday plan until finishing this:)
BTW, Happy holidays!
boring
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: yeah, total my fault, a very slow time lately and need to kill some boring
: time... shouldn't even get into this shitty stuff...Anyway, I am done with
: it...anyhow, got a holiday plan?
..
So, no holiday plan until finishing this:)
BTW, Happy holidays!
boring
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: yeah, total my fault, a very slow time lately and need to kill some boring
: time... shouldn't even get into this shitty stuff...Anyway, I am done with
: it...anyhow, got a holiday plan?
n*k
90 楼
I c, good luck with the writing...Yeah, nice figures are important...do you
guy have departmental support? Many schools/departments have professional
staff to help with figures...
figure.
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: working on my manuscript now,and taking forever to get a single nice figure.
: ..
: So, no holiday plan until finishing this:)
: BTW, Happy holidays!
:
: boring
guy have departmental support? Many schools/departments have professional
staff to help with figures...
figure.
【在 a****d 的大作中提到】
: working on my manuscript now,and taking forever to get a single nice figure.
: ..
: So, no holiday plan until finishing this:)
: BTW, Happy holidays!
:
: boring
j*x
91 楼
确实差不多到结束这个讨论的时候了,因为我相信已经比较充分了解了你是什么样的一
个人了(至少在BBS上),以及了解到你所希望表现出来你是什么样的一个人。在这一
点上我想你已经达到目的了。
我不想承认我之前高估了你,不过显然你对待评论的态度远没有你评论别人时那么淡定
。如果你愿意继续表现你也许引以自豪的驾驭语言的能力,请自便,不过实话实说你得
理解能力确实有待提高。
学会如何忽略,与你共勉吧。
don'
I
just
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: 跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive
: here you go, Man, you really have a good memory, don't you? Anyhow, you don'
: t have to be sore/hide the resentment for so long---anyhow, I am sorry if I
: have hurt you in that thread...
: you should have known better that your post/intent in that thread was just
: a little bit short of being despicable...My very short response(Frankly I
: didn't even feel like to respond as your selfish post was rather bad) was
: not even among the real harsh ones, right? Can you remember how many IDs
: responded to your selfishness/ego with criticism? I doubt whether you
: really have learned...
个人了(至少在BBS上),以及了解到你所希望表现出来你是什么样的一个人。在这一
点上我想你已经达到目的了。
我不想承认我之前高估了你,不过显然你对待评论的态度远没有你评论别人时那么淡定
。如果你愿意继续表现你也许引以自豪的驾驭语言的能力,请自便,不过实话实说你得
理解能力确实有待提高。
学会如何忽略,与你共勉吧。
don'
I
just
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: 跳出别人的帖子根据只言片语去评价别人naive
: here you go, Man, you really have a good memory, don't you? Anyhow, you don'
: t have to be sore/hide the resentment for so long---anyhow, I am sorry if I
: have hurt you in that thread...
: you should have known better that your post/intent in that thread was just
: a little bit short of being despicable...My very short response(Frankly I
: didn't even feel like to respond as your selfish post was rather bad) was
: not even among the real harsh ones, right? Can you remember how many IDs
: responded to your selfishness/ego with criticism? I doubt whether you
: really have learned...
a*d
92 楼
No departmental support at all, but I do get suggestions from people in our
lab. It's quite a learning experience.
you
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: I c, good luck with the writing...Yeah, nice figures are important...do you
: guy have departmental support? Many schools/departments have professional
: staff to help with figures...
:
: figure.
lab. It's quite a learning experience.
you
【在 n********k 的大作中提到】
: I c, good luck with the writing...Yeah, nice figures are important...do you
: guy have departmental support? Many schools/departments have professional
: staff to help with figures...
:
: figure.
j*x
98 楼
大过年的,至于吗?喝杯茶看个电影,男人胸襟大一点。被人误解不是太正常的事
情了,有机会玩玩杀人游戏,赫赫
另外,我不明白你是怎么定义朋友的,“the closest person in your life”?
我不是这么定义的,我可不是只有一个朋友,和我closest的人理论上可能有4个以上,
但是不包括任何一个朋友,虽然我是一个把朋友看的非常重的人
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: i did delete the unrespectful words. didn't revise anything else.
: so , now , you see , how many people were mislead by that comment
情了,有机会玩玩杀人游戏,赫赫
另外,我不明白你是怎么定义朋友的,“the closest person in your life”?
我不是这么定义的,我可不是只有一个朋友,和我closest的人理论上可能有4个以上,
但是不包括任何一个朋友,虽然我是一个把朋友看的非常重的人
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: i did delete the unrespectful words. didn't revise anything else.
: so , now , you see , how many people were mislead by that comment
E*C
101 楼
piss off!
the tech was fired before she joined this lab one month before me
because she was treated so mean by one coworker in her old lab, i quoted
her words. now i doubt who is a mean person>?
yes she works 15 years here
but different lab
i didn't mention this because I didn't want anybody became a judge here,
to critisize her from my side of story.
all i want here , is a suggestion that what should i say in front of my
boss. i don't want put my boss in the middle, i don't want her looking
too bad. i just want protect myself.
so, if anyone here say more words on this again, i wont be nice any
more!
生。
【在 y***i 的大作中提到】
: .......你会让周围的人非常受不了。现在看来部分原因是因为压力。建议找心理医生。
the tech was fired before she joined this lab one month before me
because she was treated so mean by one coworker in her old lab, i quoted
her words. now i doubt who is a mean person>?
yes she works 15 years here
but different lab
i didn't mention this because I didn't want anybody became a judge here,
to critisize her from my side of story.
all i want here , is a suggestion that what should i say in front of my
boss. i don't want put my boss in the middle, i don't want her looking
too bad. i just want protect myself.
so, if anyone here say more words on this again, i wont be nice any
more!
生。
【在 y***i 的大作中提到】
: .......你会让周围的人非常受不了。现在看来部分原因是因为压力。建议找心理医生。
y*i
102 楼
hehehe....
不过我建议你找心理医生,不是要讽刺你,是很严肃的建议。好的心理医生很多情况
下是非常有帮助的。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: piss off!
: the tech was fired before she joined this lab one month before me
: because she was treated so mean by one coworker in her old lab, i quoted
: her words. now i doubt who is a mean person>?
: yes she works 15 years here
: but different lab
: i didn't mention this because I didn't want anybody became a judge here,
: to critisize her from my side of story.
: all i want here , is a suggestion that what should i say in front of my
: boss. i don't want put my boss in the middle, i don't want her looking
不过我建议你找心理医生,不是要讽刺你,是很严肃的建议。好的心理医生很多情况
下是非常有帮助的。
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: piss off!
: the tech was fired before she joined this lab one month before me
: because she was treated so mean by one coworker in her old lab, i quoted
: her words. now i doubt who is a mean person>?
: yes she works 15 years here
: but different lab
: i didn't mention this because I didn't want anybody became a judge here,
: to critisize her from my side of story.
: all i want here , is a suggestion that what should i say in front of my
: boss. i don't want put my boss in the middle, i don't want her looking
O*e
103 楼
看起来你最近压力是太大了。过一阵子就好了。女朋友嘛,说你几句真是太正常不过了。
不过呢,很多小事情,不要这么在意。那么多大事情都忙不过来呢,对吧?
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: piss off!
: the tech was fired before she joined this lab one month before me
: because she was treated so mean by one coworker in her old lab, i quoted
: her words. now i doubt who is a mean person>?
: yes she works 15 years here
: but different lab
: i didn't mention this because I didn't want anybody became a judge here,
: to critisize her from my side of story.
: all i want here , is a suggestion that what should i say in front of my
: boss. i don't want put my boss in the middle, i don't want her looking
不过呢,很多小事情,不要这么在意。那么多大事情都忙不过来呢,对吧?
【在 E*C 的大作中提到】
: piss off!
: the tech was fired before she joined this lab one month before me
: because she was treated so mean by one coworker in her old lab, i quoted
: her words. now i doubt who is a mean person>?
: yes she works 15 years here
: but different lab
: i didn't mention this because I didn't want anybody became a judge here,
: to critisize her from my side of story.
: all i want here , is a suggestion that what should i say in front of my
: boss. i don't want put my boss in the middle, i don't want her looking
E*C
104 楼
you are right. I shouldn't lash out here.
most of time, i feel ok if people misunderstand me online. I don't want to
argue with others. or blame anyone here, even "she" or "he" says something
irresponsible.
了。
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 看起来你最近压力是太大了。过一阵子就好了。女朋友嘛,说你几句真是太正常不过了。
: 不过呢,很多小事情,不要这么在意。那么多大事情都忙不过来呢,对吧?
most of time, i feel ok if people misunderstand me online. I don't want to
argue with others. or blame anyone here, even "she" or "he" says something
irresponsible.
了。
【在 O******e 的大作中提到】
: 看起来你最近压力是太大了。过一阵子就好了。女朋友嘛,说你几句真是太正常不过了。
: 不过呢,很多小事情,不要这么在意。那么多大事情都忙不过来呢,对吧?
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