【在 g*********r 的大作中提到】 : sigh, comfort. : if you do not have enough resource such as cloning center, high throughput : screening etc, structural biology is a dead end : : 投给
you don't know the situation shi yigong s are 忽悠 more high school kids into bio majors , the 22 century is .......'s century also it is hard for bio undergraduate students to get real jobs. so many of them just go for graduate school so many robot candidate, do not worry !
【在 g*********r 的大作中提到】 : you don't know the situation : shi yigong s are 忽悠 more high school kids into bio majors , : the 22 century is .......'s century : also it is hard for bio undergraduate students to get real jobs. so many of : them just go for graduate school : so many robot candidate, : do not worry !
sorry I meant no offense, just my 2cents structual biology is a very interesting area, it need smart heads, good hands and tons of labor. 18 years odl kids are not really mature, thye are easily talked into somthing from science point of view, structural biology is very useful and very important but the researchers in this area, even more generally speaking, in bio area, are not making a good living. part of the reason is that the bio research is still so preliminary that it is far far away from 生物产业 that is it. everything has 2 faces; unfortunately the other face of bio is so miserable
【在 g*********r 的大作中提到】 : sigh, comfort. : if you do not have enough resource such as cloning center, high throughput : screening etc, structural biology is a dead end : : 投给
ask grasshopper "shi yigong s are 忽悠 more high school kids into bio majors" you didn't question his evidence, and made statement "第三我不觉 得谁说句话就能忽悠谁去干什么,11公也不是毛泽东希特勒,真要是这样就懵懂的去学 了然后后悔 这个要去怪自己 18岁成年人了" Similar as you, I didn't question his evidence either. And I was just attacking the logic of your statement. You don't mess up the concept. Now, you are asking evidence. You should ask grasshopper. The evidence is not my job.
【在 P******t 的大作中提到】 : ask grasshopper "shi yigong s are 忽悠 more high school kids into bio majors" : you didn't question his evidence, and made statement "第三我不觉 : 得谁说句话就能忽悠谁去干什么,11公也不是毛泽东希特勒,真要是这样就懵懂的去学 : 了然后后悔 这个要去怪自己 18岁成年人了" : Similar as you, I didn't question his evidence either. And I was just : attacking the logic of your statement. You don't mess up the concept. Now, : you are asking evidence. You should ask grasshopper. The evidence is not my : job.
你太异想天开了 先说研发, 小分子药物的discovery 已经把脏活累活转移到中国印度了, 看看药明康德就知道了 ,民工血泪啊 development 和FDA紧密关联, 不太可能转移 macromolecular 的药物更是没办法, 国内现在连上规模的成熟upstream processing 能力都没有,全靠几个外企, development FDA 都是 case by case 的 这个不是说有GMP,车间就能搞定的 你想的根本实现不了。 而且现在大药厂开始走买药策略, 中国更是没戏,根本没有催生科研企业的土壤
btw, you are more than welcome to say 生物好, as long as you have your sound evidence and logic, and that's what fruitmm asked. I don't think saying biology good is 忽悠, but the statement has to be backed up with good evidence and logic. otherwise, that is 忽悠.
you know nothing about FDA, you know nothing about pharm market u think some will be able to 山寨, then sell to china ? do you know why big pharms in U.S are making money? since they have the biggest pharm market in the world and talented researchers this market and RD capacity are not built by cheap labor the CROs making organic compounds are millions miles away from even a single pharm.
【在 g*********r 的大作中提到】 : you know nothing about FDA, : you know nothing about pharm market : u think some will be able to 山寨, then sell to china ? : do you know why big pharms in U.S are making money? : since they have the biggest pharm market in the world and talented : researchers : this market and RD capacity are not built by cheap labor : the CROs making organic compounds are millions miles away from even a : single pharm. :
【在 g*********r 的大作中提到】 : you know nothing about FDA, : you know nothing about pharm market : u think some will be able to 山寨, then sell to china ? : do you know why big pharms in U.S are making money? : since they have the biggest pharm market in the world and talented : researchers : this market and RD capacity are not built by cheap labor : the CROs making organic compounds are millions miles away from even a : single pharm. :
【在 b****y 的大作中提到】 : not sure why you are so happy ( maybe bonus is a lot). 90k in NYC is like 4 : .5k per month and apt+food alone will be 2k at least.
【在 b****y 的大作中提到】 : not sure why you are so happy ( maybe bonus is a lot). 90k in NYC is like 4 : .5k per month and apt+food alone will be 2k at least.
你不要反反复复的在这里传播谣言了 你这属于恶意造谣了 再次说一遍, 合成 有机化合物中间体 只是RD中的很小一步, 它不等于 RD 实在不知道说你什么好了 wishful thinking is useless; face the reality if you can tell the difference between reality and your wish
【在 g*********r 的大作中提到】 : 你不要反反复复的在这里传播谣言了 : 你这属于恶意造谣了 : 再次说一遍, 合成 有机化合物中间体 只是RD中的很小一步, 它不等于 RD : 实在不知道说你什么好了 : wishful thinking is useless; face the reality if you can tell the difference : between reality and your wish
What is glassdoor? A recruiter said the basic salary is usually to be $150K, plus 20-30k bonus. I was not excited about the salaray. Then the recruiter added that was for the first year. One guy in his company made about $200k for the 1st year, makde $300k for the 2nd, made $400k a few years later.
second this. When I got my offers from pharmaceutics and neuroscience, I consulted with an insider in Pfizer about how to choose offers. He told me I should choose pharmaceutics for sure if I wanna work in big pharm unless my neuroscience offer was from top 20. But I didn't choose pharmaceutics or pharmaceutical sciences at last. Now I have a SFN mentor from Pfizer and he told me that I still have a chance to get into the big pharms but I need many networkings although he said nowadays many big pharms have laid off many people from R&D.
【在 i*****d 的大作中提到】 : What is glassdoor? : A recruiter said the basic salary is usually to be $150K, plus 20-30k bonus. : I was not excited about the salaray. Then the recruiter added that was : for the first year. One guy in his company made about $200k for the 1st : year, makde $300k for the 2nd, made $400k a few years later.
【在 n***w 的大作中提到】 : second this. : When I got my offers from pharmaceutics and neuroscience, I consulted with : an insider in Pfizer about how to : choose offers. He told me I should choose pharmaceutics for sure if I wanna : work in big pharm unless my : neuroscience offer was from top 20. But I didn't choose pharmaceutics or : pharmaceutical sciences at last. : Now I have a SFN mentor from Pfizer and he told me that I still have a : chance to get into the big pharms but I : need many networkings although he said nowadays many big pharms have laid
【在 n***w 的大作中提到】 : second this. : When I got my offers from pharmaceutics and neuroscience, I consulted with : an insider in Pfizer about how to : choose offers. He told me I should choose pharmaceutics for sure if I wanna : work in big pharm unless my : neuroscience offer was from top 20. But I didn't choose pharmaceutics or : pharmaceutical sciences at last. : Now I have a SFN mentor from Pfizer and he told me that I still have a : chance to get into the big pharms but I : need many networkings although he said nowadays many big pharms have laid
真正了解点制药的人都明白 cheap labor is not the key factor for success 研发领域中的高智力人力资源和知识产权问题,都不是现阶段中国能够提供的 稍微下游些的领域, 由于法规等的严格限制,又很难转移到中国 迄今转移的其实都是些外围领域和高污染领域 我也觉着生物专业在中国可预见的未来,没有什么前景 另外一个很重要的东西就是,中国虽然提供了很多博士,但是说实话这些博士还是无法 和美国这种博士培养体系量产出来的博士竞争,不论是从能力还是语言上,还是有一定 差距的 外资在华并不是能找到很多满意的人才的