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关于CNS的cover letter的写法?# Biology - 生物学
a*o
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好久没玩中文电视了,今天一看各种卡,现在必须改DNS吗?
哪个DNS好使?
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D*a
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正在看Nature的要求,他说,
This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
scientific) audience.
请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
这种?
interdisciplinary呢,nature上那么多纯生物/物理/化学的文章,咋个强调
interdisciplinary法?
打算试试水,请大牛指导。。。
欢迎站短哈 ^_^
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p*m
5
这个没必要严格遵守吧。我觉得重点是强调你们研究的话题多么多么fundamental,然
后你们的进展在big picture上有什么重要性。或者也可以强调之前的研究多么多么
misleading,你们的进展是多么的eye opening。之类的。
nature editor都是半吊子科学家反正,而且一个人负责好大一个领域,所以你说的越
浅显越震撼越好。

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

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f*e
6
ft, 那哪个是?不会说dock star吧?我记得前阵版上不是搞过类似这个的吗?

【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】
: no. 这款太弱了
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D*a
7
多谢!
看来他们是要基础研究是吧,那就是说不能提什么theropy了?
我就是摸不准这个big picture要有多大呢,直接到最大的领域(热坑)么?
eye opening,这个好!
囧,他们审稿把关的不是科学家?有多半吊子啊?那要把letter写成科学美国人水平么
?难道那个给popular (non-scientific) audience的summary才是他们看的?。。。

【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 这个没必要严格遵守吧。我觉得重点是强调你们研究的话题多么多么fundamental,然
: 后你们的进展在big picture上有什么重要性。或者也可以强调之前的研究多么多么
: misleading,你们的进展是多么的eye opening。之类的。
: nature editor都是半吊子科学家反正,而且一个人负责好大一个领域,所以你说的越
: 浅显越震撼越好。
:
: the

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P*s
8
你瞎ft啥?自己好好找找,pogo有好几个版本。这个是双核700mhz的。

【在 f*********e 的大作中提到】
: ft, 那哪个是?不会说dock star吧?我记得前阵版上不是搞过类似这个的吗?
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p*m
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那倒也不用,打个比方,你要是投免疫的文章,就把cover letter写到能让任何一个学
过免疫课的phd看懂的水平就行了,别上来就假设他们会知道你们具体的研究方向。也
不需要往科普的程度写
therapy这个我不懂,没法发言,我可没说他们只要基础研究哈

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢!
: 看来他们是要基础研究是吧,那就是说不能提什么theropy了?
: 我就是摸不准这个big picture要有多大呢,直接到最大的领域(热坑)么?
: eye opening,这个好!
: 囧,他们审稿把关的不是科学家?有多半吊子啊?那要把letter写成科学美国人水平么
: ?难道那个给popular (non-scientific) audience的summary才是他们看的?。。。

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f*e
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确实晕。长的差不多。

【在 P*****s 的大作中提到】
: 你瞎ft啥?自己好好找找,pogo有好几个版本。这个是双核700mhz的。
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D*a
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多谢楼上!
集思广益啊~啊~啊~
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n*k
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cong!!!

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

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D*a
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再顶顶~
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l*1
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the better way is focused on hot topics likes "2012 sea water covered NY big
apple prediction" or "2022 global warming let sea water cover Sydney" jokes
likes but CNS those editors prefer these.
NB:
Only for your request for for what can be called a topical, interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 再顶顶~
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D*a
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看来是要勇敢跳热坑了~~~

big
jokes
interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: the better way is focused on hot topics likes "2012 sea water covered NY big
: apple prediction" or "2022 global warming let sea water cover Sydney" jokes
: likes but CNS those editors prefer these.
: NB:
: Only for your request for for what can be called a topical, interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

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y*e
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原来是你的帖子。。。

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 看来是要勇敢跳热坑了~~~
:
: big
: jokes
: interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

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D*a
17
才女来指导指导啊~

【在 y********e 的大作中提到】
: 原来是你的帖子。。。
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y*e
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我老公应该是有
但是他不喜欢我在网上上蹿下跳。。。
所以我不敢跟他要啦

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 才女来指导指导啊~
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I*a
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围观牛人啊,
成了记得发包子,
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D*a
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T_T
帮帮忙撒~

【在 y********e 的大作中提到】
: 我老公应该是有
: 但是他不喜欢我在网上上蹿下跳。。。
: 所以我不敢跟他要啦

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D*a
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能到reviewer手里俺就觉得不亏拉、、、

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】
: 围观牛人啊,
: 成了记得发包子,

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g*p
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这种信不是该你老板写的么
学生第一次写,写不好的
要是你老板想锻炼一下你,先给你个模板什么的
你依葫芦画瓢写一个就好了
他再去改

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

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l*1
23
H5N1 SARS now already be/could be again fashionable in HongKong and nearby
GuangDong province, so your cover letter if expended to these topics CNS
editors should EYES opening widely soon.

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 能到reviewer手里俺就觉得不亏拉、、、
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l*1
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if her PI already holed many CNS papers record do you think Dua came here to
ask us?
If not or already rejected from CNS editors before, how he/she (PI) can
advise her in this point?

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 这种信不是该你老板写的么
: 学生第一次写,写不好的
: 要是你老板想锻炼一下你,先给你个模板什么的
: 你依葫芦画瓢写一个就好了
: 他再去改
:
: the

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D*a
25
是呀~
ps 俺不是搞流行病学滴~

to

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: if her PI already holed many CNS papers record do you think Dua came here to
: ask us?
: If not or already rejected from CNS editors before, how he/she (PI) can
: advise her in this point?

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D*a
26
你有经验么?能不能说说~

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 这种信不是该你老板写的么
: 学生第一次写,写不好的
: 要是你老板想锻炼一下你,先给你个模板什么的
: 你依葫芦画瓢写一个就好了
: 他再去改
:
: the

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g*p
27
从来不需要刻意去写你这个东西有general interest
这种杂志的科技论文也从来不是给大众看的,即使他们这么标榜也没用。 因为不是行
业出身的大众没人看得懂,只有他们板块里政论性的文章和新闻才是
你只需要用简明扼要的话把你的significance和background写好就行了
general interests只需要说明xx方向是大家关心的热点,你的工作解决了一个什么样
的重要问题,将会对某些方向的基础/应用研究有多大影响就行了(当然绝大多数cns文
章根本没有解决这些问题,你只需要和editor,reviewer之间互相骗,大家把谎话当真
理写下来相互认可就行了)

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 你有经验么?能不能说说~
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j*d
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哈哈。
别把人家小姑娘给吓着了。
对,就说解决了啥问题就行,之前黑暗一片,我的充满了洞见,或概念性创新。

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 从来不需要刻意去写你这个东西有general interest
: 这种杂志的科技论文也从来不是给大众看的,即使他们这么标榜也没用。 因为不是行
: 业出身的大众没人看得懂,只有他们板块里政论性的文章和新闻才是
: 你只需要用简明扼要的话把你的significance和background写好就行了
: general interests只需要说明xx方向是大家关心的热点,你的工作解决了一个什么样
: 的重要问题,将会对某些方向的基础/应用研究有多大影响就行了(当然绝大多数cns文
: 章根本没有解决这些问题,你只需要和editor,reviewer之间互相骗,大家把谎话当真
: 理写下来相互认可就行了)

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l*1
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If your results can expanded to solving
implant industrial silicon breast trouble to many EU and US women,
it has same abstract CNS editors EYES's impact.

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 是呀~
: ps 俺不是搞流行病学滴~
:
: to

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D*a
30
多谢哈~

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 从来不需要刻意去写你这个东西有general interest
: 这种杂志的科技论文也从来不是给大众看的,即使他们这么标榜也没用。 因为不是行
: 业出身的大众没人看得懂,只有他们板块里政论性的文章和新闻才是
: 你只需要用简明扼要的话把你的significance和background写好就行了
: general interests只需要说明xx方向是大家关心的热点,你的工作解决了一个什么样
: 的重要问题,将会对某些方向的基础/应用研究有多大影响就行了(当然绝大多数cns文
: 章根本没有解决这些问题,你只需要和editor,reviewer之间互相骗,大家把谎话当真
: 理写下来相互认可就行了)

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s*y
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一直不敢回你的帖子,因为怕被人说又来卖弄。
但是既然你都追上门来问我了,那我就随便讲讲吧。
就我投稿的经验来说,
投稿的时候,要注意几点:
投稿信大概就是类似一个abstract 的写法,要有introduction, data, and
discussion.
在投稿信里的introduction要列出几片相关文章的档次,比方说是不是大部分
都发在CNS上. 对于你们的数据,不要说的太technical, 而是要大概说说你们
发现了什么,填补了什么空白。 最后指出这些数据对于什么领域会有意义。
另外, Nature editor 对细胞,老鼠和生化貌似相当内行,但是她们貌似比较
喜欢数据多的稿子。而且她会具体的提出一些意见,并说如果按照她的意见做了之后可
以再投回来,所以你们要是投Nature的话,最好把图片做得busy 一些看起来数据很多
的样子,如果第一次被拒,只要她说可以再考虑的话,那就按她的要求去做一做,再送
出去应该就能被送审而且过关的可能性会比较高。
Science 比较看重数据的新颖程度,对于数据量图片量倒不是那么重视,
所以要强调你们数据的新意。被送审的机会就会大得多。
我们和Cell 打交道的经验非常不好,每次都是直接被他们的主编锯,所以
就不能多说什么了。
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D*a
32
多谢多谢哈~

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 一直不敢回你的帖子,因为怕被人说又来卖弄。
: 但是既然你都追上门来问我了,那我就随便讲讲吧。
: 就我投稿的经验来说,
: 投稿的时候,要注意几点:
: 投稿信大概就是类似一个abstract 的写法,要有introduction, data, and
: discussion.
: 在投稿信里的introduction要列出几片相关文章的档次,比方说是不是大部分
: 都发在CNS上. 对于你们的数据,不要说的太technical, 而是要大概说说你们
: 发现了什么,填补了什么空白。 最后指出这些数据对于什么领域会有意义。
: 另外, Nature editor 对细胞,老鼠和生化貌似相当内行,但是她们貌似比较

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M*a
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50 ways to write a (cover) letter
16 Apr 2007 | 12:39 BST | Posted by Joshua Finkelstein | Category: Other
authors
Kyle’s blog entry on writing scientific papers got me thinking about an
important – and underappreciated – part of submitting your work to a
journal. So I thought I’d write down a few of my thoughts about cover
letters. A caveat, of course, is that these are just my opinions – maybe
other NPG editors can chime in and let me know if they agree/disagree with
the items on this list…
1. You don’t need to discuss much, but always submit a cover letter (unless
the journal doesn’t allow it) – I obviously can’t speak for editors at
other journals, but I always read the cover letter. It’s often the first
thing an editor reads, so don’t miss out on a chance to make a good
impression.
2. You don’t need to be coy, Roy – the cover letter should contain a brief
summary of the work, but be careful not to over- or underplay the discovery
. If there are other key papers that have been recently published (i.e.,
this work refutes the model proposed in that paper), then point them out in
the cover letter too – this part of the letter can be used to put your work
into a broader context and highlight certain aspects that were unexpected/
surprising.
3. Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation – it’s fine to assume the
reader is a Ph.D.-level scientist, but I think it’s worth remembering that
they may not be intimately familiar with every detail of your particular
system. For this reason, I think it’s worth taking the time to highlight
the main points/the major implications of the work (see #2, though) without
getting too bogged down in the technical details. If it’s the first time
anyone’s shown X, then that’s worth highlighting – just don’t forget to
explain why X is so important…
4. Eats, Shoots & Leaves – Microsoft Word’s spell-check can be very
helpful, but I think it’s worth asking someone outside of your immediate
field to read through your cover letter (and paper) to see if they notice
any spelling/grammatical errors or confusing sentences/paragraphs. (But don
’t get too worried – you don’t need to buy a Chicago Manual of Style to
write a good cover letter…)
5. If you’ve talked with an editor about the work (at a meeting, for
example), definitely mention this in your cover letter. This is less
important if the team of editors is fairly small (but I think it’s still
worth doing) – at Nature, there’s a fairly large editorial team and your
paper may not be assigned to the person you talked with (this is especially
true for multidisciplinary work). Though we circulate new submissions to
editors who handle papers in related areas, it’s always good to know if you
’ve talked with someone else on the team, as this will ensure that they see
the paper before any editorial decision is made.
6. Always suggest referees – most journals let you list a few potential
referees that you feel are particularly qualified to review the work. But
don’t put down your old Ph.D./post-doc advisor or someone who you’ve
recently published with (as many editors check PubMed or other databases
before contacting referees) – even if there is no actual conflict of
interest, many editors avoid a situation where there could be a perceived
conflict of interest. These lists tend to be useful starting places when
contacting referees (especially if there is a special technique involved or
if the paper involves a discovery in a relatively small field).
7. Nature allows authors to submit a short list (usually two or three names)
of people working on related work (or people who the authors feel may not
be able to act as an impartial referee). This is very useful information, as
(unfortunately) competition and bias exist, and it’s best to know this
before we start contacting referees. But please keep the list short – I’ve
seen entire departments or schools listed in this section – or you may get
an email from the editor asking you to revise your list.
Hmm – I think that’s it. I guess I’m a few shy of 50 – any other NPG
editors want to add their thoughts?
Joshua
Joshua Finkelstein (Senior Editor, Nature)

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

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l*1
34
The most important thing is your first founding and also this/these result/s
and relative discussion is/are different to that field almost PI' already
known truth, i mean without your manuscript published human academic field
will lose one change for better understood that field.
Otherwise without one second last author holds your manuscript authorship
and he/she is always belong to CNS authors' list before, you never think
about that you can pass through first selection round to outside reviewers
before you or your PI already hold EMBO J or similar IF level papers annually/biannually records for at least
one decade.
>
反倒是wendell lim这两年势
头很猛。也是牛文章一篇接一篇。但是他跟汤超的那片“细胞”就是挂了个名,还落个
通讯作者。但是如果不挂上他,不知道这篇文章还能上“细胞”不。想想大陆出身的中
国PI真的挺吃亏的。看看哈佛的系统生物学系,就像魏斯曼的后院一样。犹太人照顾自
己人藏都不藏一下。大家以后审文章,看到同胞的,不要求您放低标准,但希望您能保
持平常心,不要对同胞过高要求就好了
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Biology/15852903.html

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢多谢哈~
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D*a
35
多谢楼上两位!很有帮助~
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m*m
36
围观牛人们!

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

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l*1
37
Anything updated? this Month
Submitted to Nature and on their outside review or pre-submitted already
passed and now on preparing
main submission?

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢楼上两位!很有帮助~
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D*a
38
还没投呢,哎,老板墨迹,我也回国过年去了

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: Anything updated? this Month
: Submitted to Nature and on their outside review or pre-submitted already
: passed and now on preparing
: main submission?

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l*1
39
Je sais.

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 还没投呢,哎,老板墨迹,我也回国过年去了
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o*4
40
幸福啊,还能回家过年啊

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 还没投呢,哎,老板墨迹,我也回国过年去了
avatar
D*a
41
正在看Nature的要求,他说,
This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
scientific) audience.
请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
这种?
interdisciplinary呢,nature上那么多纯生物/物理/化学的文章,咋个强调
interdisciplinary法?
打算试试水,请大牛指导。。。
欢迎站短哈 ^_^
avatar
p*m
42
这个没必要严格遵守吧。我觉得重点是强调你们研究的话题多么多么fundamental,然
后你们的进展在big picture上有什么重要性。或者也可以强调之前的研究多么多么
misleading,你们的进展是多么的eye opening。之类的。
nature editor都是半吊子科学家反正,而且一个人负责好大一个领域,所以你说的越
浅显越震撼越好。

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

avatar
D*a
43
多谢!
看来他们是要基础研究是吧,那就是说不能提什么theropy了?
我就是摸不准这个big picture要有多大呢,直接到最大的领域(热坑)么?
eye opening,这个好!
囧,他们审稿把关的不是科学家?有多半吊子啊?那要把letter写成科学美国人水平么
?难道那个给popular (non-scientific) audience的summary才是他们看的?。。。

【在 p*****m 的大作中提到】
: 这个没必要严格遵守吧。我觉得重点是强调你们研究的话题多么多么fundamental,然
: 后你们的进展在big picture上有什么重要性。或者也可以强调之前的研究多么多么
: misleading,你们的进展是多么的eye opening。之类的。
: nature editor都是半吊子科学家反正,而且一个人负责好大一个领域,所以你说的越
: 浅显越震撼越好。
:
: the

avatar
p*m
44
那倒也不用,打个比方,你要是投免疫的文章,就把cover letter写到能让任何一个学
过免疫课的phd看懂的水平就行了,别上来就假设他们会知道你们具体的研究方向。也
不需要往科普的程度写
therapy这个我不懂,没法发言,我可没说他们只要基础研究哈

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢!
: 看来他们是要基础研究是吧,那就是说不能提什么theropy了?
: 我就是摸不准这个big picture要有多大呢,直接到最大的领域(热坑)么?
: eye opening,这个好!
: 囧,他们审稿把关的不是科学家?有多半吊子啊?那要把letter写成科学美国人水平么
: ?难道那个给popular (non-scientific) audience的summary才是他们看的?。。。

avatar
D*a
45
多谢楼上!
集思广益啊~啊~啊~
avatar
n*k
46
cong!!!

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

avatar
D*a
47
再顶顶~
avatar
l*1
48
the better way is focused on hot topics likes "2012 sea water covered NY big
apple prediction" or "2022 global warming let sea water cover Sydney" jokes
likes but CNS those editors prefer these.
NB:
Only for your request for for what can be called a topical, interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 再顶顶~
avatar
D*a
49
看来是要勇敢跳热坑了~~~

big
jokes
interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: the better way is focused on hot topics likes "2012 sea water covered NY big
: apple prediction" or "2022 global warming let sea water cover Sydney" jokes
: likes but CNS those editors prefer these.
: NB:
: Only for your request for for what can be called a topical, interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

avatar
y*e
50
原来是你的帖子。。。

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 看来是要勇敢跳热坑了~~~
:
: big
: jokes
: interdisciplinary contents to CNS...

avatar
D*a
51
才女来指导指导啊~

【在 y********e 的大作中提到】
: 原来是你的帖子。。。
avatar
y*e
52
我老公应该是有
但是他不喜欢我在网上上蹿下跳。。。
所以我不敢跟他要啦

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 才女来指导指导啊~
avatar
I*a
53
围观牛人啊,
成了记得发包子,
avatar
D*a
54
T_T
帮帮忙撒~

【在 y********e 的大作中提到】
: 我老公应该是有
: 但是他不喜欢我在网上上蹿下跳。。。
: 所以我不敢跟他要啦

avatar
D*a
55
能到reviewer手里俺就觉得不亏拉、、、

【在 I***a 的大作中提到】
: 围观牛人啊,
: 成了记得发包子,

avatar
g*p
56
这种信不是该你老板写的么
学生第一次写,写不好的
要是你老板想锻炼一下你,先给你个模板什么的
你依葫芦画瓢写一个就好了
他再去改

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

avatar
l*1
57
H5N1 SARS now already be/could be again fashionable in HongKong and nearby
GuangDong province, so your cover letter if expended to these topics CNS
editors should EYES opening widely soon.

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 能到reviewer手里俺就觉得不亏拉、、、
avatar
l*1
58
if her PI already holed many CNS papers record do you think Dua came here to
ask us?
If not or already rejected from CNS editors before, how he/she (PI) can
advise her in this point?

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 这种信不是该你老板写的么
: 学生第一次写,写不好的
: 要是你老板想锻炼一下你,先给你个模板什么的
: 你依葫芦画瓢写一个就好了
: 他再去改
:
: the

avatar
D*a
59
是呀~
ps 俺不是搞流行病学滴~

to

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: if her PI already holed many CNS papers record do you think Dua came here to
: ask us?
: If not or already rejected from CNS editors before, how he/she (PI) can
: advise her in this point?

avatar
D*a
60
你有经验么?能不能说说~

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 这种信不是该你老板写的么
: 学生第一次写,写不好的
: 要是你老板想锻炼一下你,先给你个模板什么的
: 你依葫芦画瓢写一个就好了
: 他再去改
:
: the

avatar
g*p
61
从来不需要刻意去写你这个东西有general interest
这种杂志的科技论文也从来不是给大众看的,即使他们这么标榜也没用。 因为不是行
业出身的大众没人看得懂,只有他们板块里政论性的文章和新闻才是
你只需要用简明扼要的话把你的significance和background写好就行了
general interests只需要说明xx方向是大家关心的热点,你的工作解决了一个什么样
的重要问题,将会对某些方向的基础/应用研究有多大影响就行了(当然绝大多数cns文
章根本没有解决这些问题,你只需要和editor,reviewer之间互相骗,大家把谎话当真
理写下来相互认可就行了)

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 你有经验么?能不能说说~
avatar
j*d
62
哈哈。
别把人家小姑娘给吓着了。
对,就说解决了啥问题就行,之前黑暗一片,我的充满了洞见,或概念性创新。

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 从来不需要刻意去写你这个东西有general interest
: 这种杂志的科技论文也从来不是给大众看的,即使他们这么标榜也没用。 因为不是行
: 业出身的大众没人看得懂,只有他们板块里政论性的文章和新闻才是
: 你只需要用简明扼要的话把你的significance和background写好就行了
: general interests只需要说明xx方向是大家关心的热点,你的工作解决了一个什么样
: 的重要问题,将会对某些方向的基础/应用研究有多大影响就行了(当然绝大多数cns文
: 章根本没有解决这些问题,你只需要和editor,reviewer之间互相骗,大家把谎话当真
: 理写下来相互认可就行了)

avatar
D*a
63
多谢哈~

【在 g*****p 的大作中提到】
: 从来不需要刻意去写你这个东西有general interest
: 这种杂志的科技论文也从来不是给大众看的,即使他们这么标榜也没用。 因为不是行
: 业出身的大众没人看得懂,只有他们板块里政论性的文章和新闻才是
: 你只需要用简明扼要的话把你的significance和background写好就行了
: general interests只需要说明xx方向是大家关心的热点,你的工作解决了一个什么样
: 的重要问题,将会对某些方向的基础/应用研究有多大影响就行了(当然绝大多数cns文
: 章根本没有解决这些问题,你只需要和editor,reviewer之间互相骗,大家把谎话当真
: 理写下来相互认可就行了)

avatar
s*y
64
一直不敢回你的帖子,因为怕被人说又来卖弄。
但是既然你都追上门来问我了,那我就随便讲讲吧。
就我投稿的经验来说,
投稿的时候,要注意几点:
投稿信大概就是类似一个abstract 的写法,要有introduction, data, and
discussion.
在投稿信里的introduction要列出几片相关文章的档次,比方说是不是大部分
都发在CNS上. 对于你们的数据,不要说的太technical, 而是要大概说说你们
发现了什么,填补了什么空白。 最后指出这些数据对于什么领域会有意义。
另外, Nature editor 对细胞,老鼠和生化貌似相当内行,但是她们貌似比较
喜欢数据多的稿子。而且她会具体的提出一些意见,并说如果按照她的意见做了之后可
以再投回来,所以你们要是投Nature的话,最好把图片做得busy 一些看起来数据很多
的样子,如果第一次被拒,只要她说可以再考虑的话,那就按她的要求去做一做,再送
出去应该就能被送审而且过关的可能性会比较高。
Science 比较看重数据的新颖程度,对于数据量图片量倒不是那么重视,
所以要强调你们数据的新意。被送审的机会就会大得多。
我们和Cell 打交道的经验非常不好,每次都是直接被他们的主编锯,所以
就不能多说什么了。
avatar
D*a
65
多谢多谢哈~

【在 s******y 的大作中提到】
: 一直不敢回你的帖子,因为怕被人说又来卖弄。
: 但是既然你都追上门来问我了,那我就随便讲讲吧。
: 就我投稿的经验来说,
: 投稿的时候,要注意几点:
: 投稿信大概就是类似一个abstract 的写法,要有introduction, data, and
: discussion.
: 在投稿信里的introduction要列出几片相关文章的档次,比方说是不是大部分
: 都发在CNS上. 对于你们的数据,不要说的太technical, 而是要大概说说你们
: 发现了什么,填补了什么空白。 最后指出这些数据对于什么领域会有意义。
: 另外, Nature editor 对细胞,老鼠和生化貌似相当内行,但是她们貌似比较

avatar
M*a
66
50 ways to write a (cover) letter
16 Apr 2007 | 12:39 BST | Posted by Joshua Finkelstein | Category: Other
authors
Kyle’s blog entry on writing scientific papers got me thinking about an
important – and underappreciated – part of submitting your work to a
journal. So I thought I’d write down a few of my thoughts about cover
letters. A caveat, of course, is that these are just my opinions – maybe
other NPG editors can chime in and let me know if they agree/disagree with
the items on this list…
1. You don’t need to discuss much, but always submit a cover letter (unless
the journal doesn’t allow it) – I obviously can’t speak for editors at
other journals, but I always read the cover letter. It’s often the first
thing an editor reads, so don’t miss out on a chance to make a good
impression.
2. You don’t need to be coy, Roy – the cover letter should contain a brief
summary of the work, but be careful not to over- or underplay the discovery
. If there are other key papers that have been recently published (i.e.,
this work refutes the model proposed in that paper), then point them out in
the cover letter too – this part of the letter can be used to put your work
into a broader context and highlight certain aspects that were unexpected/
surprising.
3. Eschew obfuscation, espouse elucidation – it’s fine to assume the
reader is a Ph.D.-level scientist, but I think it’s worth remembering that
they may not be intimately familiar with every detail of your particular
system. For this reason, I think it’s worth taking the time to highlight
the main points/the major implications of the work (see #2, though) without
getting too bogged down in the technical details. If it’s the first time
anyone’s shown X, then that’s worth highlighting – just don’t forget to
explain why X is so important…
4. Eats, Shoots & Leaves – Microsoft Word’s spell-check can be very
helpful, but I think it’s worth asking someone outside of your immediate
field to read through your cover letter (and paper) to see if they notice
any spelling/grammatical errors or confusing sentences/paragraphs. (But don
’t get too worried – you don’t need to buy a Chicago Manual of Style to
write a good cover letter…)
5. If you’ve talked with an editor about the work (at a meeting, for
example), definitely mention this in your cover letter. This is less
important if the team of editors is fairly small (but I think it’s still
worth doing) – at Nature, there’s a fairly large editorial team and your
paper may not be assigned to the person you talked with (this is especially
true for multidisciplinary work). Though we circulate new submissions to
editors who handle papers in related areas, it’s always good to know if you
’ve talked with someone else on the team, as this will ensure that they see
the paper before any editorial decision is made.
6. Always suggest referees – most journals let you list a few potential
referees that you feel are particularly qualified to review the work. But
don’t put down your old Ph.D./post-doc advisor or someone who you’ve
recently published with (as many editors check PubMed or other databases
before contacting referees) – even if there is no actual conflict of
interest, many editors avoid a situation where there could be a perceived
conflict of interest. These lists tend to be useful starting places when
contacting referees (especially if there is a special technique involved or
if the paper involves a discovery in a relatively small field).
7. Nature allows authors to submit a short list (usually two or three names)
of people working on related work (or people who the authors feel may not
be able to act as an impartial referee). This is very useful information, as
(unfortunately) competition and bias exist, and it’s best to know this
before we start contacting referees. But please keep the list short – I’ve
seen entire departments or schools listed in this section – or you may get
an email from the editor asking you to revise your list.
Hmm – I think that’s it. I guess I’m a few shy of 50 – any other NPG
editors want to add their thoughts?
Joshua
Joshua Finkelstein (Senior Editor, Nature)

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

avatar
l*1
67
The most important thing is your first founding and also this/these result/s
and relative discussion is/are different to that field almost PI' already
known truth, i mean without your manuscript published human academic field
will lose one change for better understood that field.
Otherwise without one second last author holds your manuscript authorship
and he/she is always belong to CNS authors' list before, you never think
about that you can pass through first selection round to outside reviewers
before you or your PI already hold EMBO J or similar IF level papers annually/biannually records for at least
one decade.
>
反倒是wendell lim这两年势
头很猛。也是牛文章一篇接一篇。但是他跟汤超的那片“细胞”就是挂了个名,还落个
通讯作者。但是如果不挂上他,不知道这篇文章还能上“细胞”不。想想大陆出身的中
国PI真的挺吃亏的。看看哈佛的系统生物学系,就像魏斯曼的后院一样。犹太人照顾自
己人藏都不藏一下。大家以后审文章,看到同胞的,不要求您放低标准,但希望您能保
持平常心,不要对同胞过高要求就好了
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Biology/15852903.html

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢多谢哈~
avatar
D*a
68
多谢楼上两位!很有帮助~
avatar
m*m
69
围观牛人们!

the

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 正在看Nature的要求,他说,
: This letter should contain two (100-word or shorter) summaries:
: a concise paragraph to the editor indicating the scientific grounds why the
: paper should be considered for a topical, interdisciplinary journal rather
: than for a single-discipline or archival journal;
: and a separate, 100-word summary of the paper's appeal to a popular (non-
: scientific) audience.
: 请问版上各位大牛,是不是在cover lettre里面要从多大的big picture着眼呢?要强
: 调得多么topical呢?是不是一定点出来,我们的文章义无反顾的跳了某某某的热坑,
: 这种?

avatar
l*1
70
Anything updated? this Month
Submitted to Nature and on their outside review or pre-submitted already
passed and now on preparing
main submission?

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 多谢楼上两位!很有帮助~
avatar
D*a
71
还没投呢,哎,老板墨迹,我也回国过年去了

【在 l**********1 的大作中提到】
: Anything updated? this Month
: Submitted to Nature and on their outside review or pre-submitted already
: passed and now on preparing
: main submission?

avatar
o*4
72
幸福啊,还能回家过年啊

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 还没投呢,哎,老板墨迹,我也回国过年去了
avatar
l*1
73
Nature draft, anything updated? this Month...

【在 D*a 的大作中提到】
: 还没投呢,哎,老板墨迹,我也回国过年去了
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