要求还真不高,但是Flavell绝对不算immunologist. 给你列举几个我觉得是 immunologist的人你就知道了。 这些人可以说是Immunologist: Ken Murphy Shizuo Akira Jim Allison Richard Locksley S Sakaguchi Jason Cyster Chen Dong Mark Davis Michel Nussenzweig Ralph Steinman Alex Rudensky Yong-jun Liu Flavell虽然发过很多CNS paper, 但是大多很垃圾。尤其是最近5-6年的更是垃圾到不 行,比较典型的就是08年关于Alum激活inflammasome的Nature paper, 说Alum佐剂功能 和inflammasome有关,这是明显是赤裸裸的造假。这个被后来很多的lab (>5)证明是根 本不对的。还有他们最近的NLRP10的Nature paper也有很多地方有问题,已经有几个 lab联合起来个Nature editor写correspondance了,看他们怎么收场。还有他们那个 Th17 regulation的paper (Nature)在很多conference中都被challenge过N次了,这个 事儿做Th17的人应该都有所耳闻。
Richard is a molecular biologist. He is not an immunologist at all. Don't judge a scientist by recent papers. He's getting old and it's time for young folks to take over. Share more respects plz.
【在 t**********1 的大作中提到】 : 要求还真不高,但是Flavell绝对不算immunologist. 给你列举几个我觉得是 : immunologist的人你就知道了。 : 这些人可以说是Immunologist: : Ken Murphy : Shizuo Akira : Jim Allison : Richard Locksley : S Sakaguchi : Jason Cyster : Chen Dong
A lot of post-docs from Richard Flavell's lab became famous PIs and immulogists.Including some chinese-Chen Dong, Ming O Li, Hongbo Chi. Too many to list.
That's absolutely true, but that does NOT make Flavell an immunologist. Flavell lab 的运营模式就是这样的, postdoc是完全的independent, 这个你可以和 他实验室的人打听一下。好多世界各地非常优秀的人到他那里做postdoc, 这些人很聪 明又勤奋,所以很容易出东西。再加上Flavell的名声,发CNS paper一点儿都不奇怪。 所以我说Flavell其实是一个很成功的“商人”biologist, 他现在基本上什么不用干, 只要保证他招的postdoc有很多水平很高的就行了。我本人2012年去Flavell lab 面试 过,他也给了offer, 最后我没有去。我刚开始也是觉得非他那里不去,等面试了以后 就觉得不想去了。
【在 s*********y 的大作中提到】 : A lot of post-docs from Richard Flavell's lab became famous PIs and : immulogists.Including some chinese-Chen Dong, Ming O Li, Hongbo Chi. Too : many to list.
Dude: Your accusation is just speculation. Show some respect. Lots of big shots' labs are exactly like this- esp those successful big shots w/ a successful track-record of their postdoc landing on faculty positions. don't u know why? Because they make the postdocs run the lab! and they train postdoc to be future's PIs In essence the boss doesn't do much but provides a platform for you to be successful that's why schools like to hire postdoc of big shots. 'cause they know postdoc out of these kinds of lab are trained as future PI already