请问哪里去找historical macro econ data？# Economics - 经济
v*t
1 楼
我的一个侄子现在在国内上音乐附中，学钢琴，想到美国来上高中，为以后上音乐类大
学继续钢琴的深造做准备。请问有谁知道美国这类高中的排名吗？多谢
学继续钢琴的深造做准备。请问有谁知道美国这类高中的排名吗？多谢
j*6
2 楼
小弟才来美国不久，对opt了解的不是很清楚（比如什么时候生效），希望各位牛人能
指点一二，不盛感激~~~
指点一二，不盛感激~~~
m*u
3 楼
But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
(1)
no 1st author journal paper
No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
(2)
Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
scene categorization require little attention
Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
(1)
no 1st author journal paper
No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
(2)
Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
scene categorization require little attention
q*j
4 楼
比如 CPI, Treasury bill rate, industrial production etc。越早越好。政府的网
站看了看，好像都是非常近期的数据。被办法用来做research。多谢了。
站看了看，好像都是非常近期的数据。被办法用来做research。多谢了。
j*j
5 楼
如果你懒得查，
简单说，就是 毕业前申请，生效时间自己指定，一般都指定在毕业后马上开始，以便
可以马上上班。具体还有很多细节，去问你们学校的iss最清楚。
【在 j********6 的大作中提到】
: 小弟才来美国不久，对opt了解的不是很清楚（比如什么时候生效），希望各位牛人能
: 指点一二，不盛感激~~~
简单说，就是 毕业前申请，生效时间自己指定，一般都指定在毕业后马上开始，以便
可以马上上班。具体还有很多细节，去问你们学校的iss最清楚。
【在 j********6 的大作中提到】
: 小弟才来美国不久，对opt了解的不是很清楚（比如什么时候生效），希望各位牛人能
: 指点一二，不盛感激~~~
T*n
6 楼
您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
G*A
7 楼
Try the historical statistics
http://hsus.cambridge.org/HSUSWeb/HSUSEntryServlet
http://hsus.cambridge.org/HSUSWeb/HSUSEntryServlet
p*t
8 楼
最迟毕业后２个月生效，我是毕业前申请的，毕业后快３个月才拿到EAD卡，但那上面
开始时间是我毕业后的２个月，亏了我十几天。
开始时间是我毕业后的２个月，亏了我十几天。
v*e
9 楼
第一个里面那么多SIGMOD, VLDB还有ICDE，前两个都是top conference，很牛了。CS主
要还是看会议吧
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
要还是看会议吧
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
x*e
10 楼
真不知道都是哪流学校的,咋还要自己找数据呢,经济系博导难道都外出打工去了,不教
书育人吗? ...
Google一下FRED,BLS,BEA就全有了...
书育人吗? ...
Google一下FRED,BLS,BEA就全有了...
m*u
11 楼
我孤陋寡闻。
不过仔细看她后来的ｐｕｂｌｉｃａｔｉｏｎ，没有呜嚷呜嚷的啊。
发的杂志好像也不是ｔｏｐ的。
主要是我知道有些类似的人发类似的ｐａｐｅｒ的。
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
: 很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
不过仔细看她后来的ｐｕｂｌｉｃａｔｉｏｎ，没有呜嚷呜嚷的啊。
发的杂志好像也不是ｔｏｐ的。
主要是我知道有些类似的人发类似的ｐａｐｅｒ的。
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
: 很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
m*u
12 楼
看了perona的网页，发现他实验室居然（现在）没有中国学生。
http://www.vision.caltech.edu/people.html
有时候为了追踪某个人的工作就查看网页，发现有些ＣＳ实验室很多学生，就是中国学
生极少，不知为何道理？一直以为中国学生是ｗｕｙａｎｇｗｕｙａｎｇ的。
比如ｕｃｓｄ
http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/csepeople/graduatestudenthomepages.html
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
: 很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
http://www.vision.caltech.edu/people.html
有时候为了追踪某个人的工作就查看网页，发现有些ＣＳ实验室很多学生，就是中国学
生极少，不知为何道理？一直以为中国学生是ｗｕｙａｎｇｗｕｙａｎｇ的。
比如ｕｃｓｄ
http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/csepeople/graduatestudenthomepages.html
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
: 很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
I*2
13 楼
土人，数据库的第一个全是顶级会议。
第二个的老板牛而且那个pnas IF有10左右。
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
第二个的老板牛而且那个pnas IF有10左右。
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
m*u
14 楼
kaka,所以上来问嘛。我也说了不是一个领域的，不是很清楚这些分量。比如第二个，
开始以为是做心理物理研究的，因为我就知道有些认识的人做博士后在类似领域发表了
不少ｐａｐｅｒ。
看来这两个例子还是说明ｐａｐｅｒ牛是硬通货。
【在 I*****2 的大作中提到】
: 土人，数据库的第一个全是顶级会议。
: 第二个的老板牛而且那个pnas IF有10左右。
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
开始以为是做心理物理研究的，因为我就知道有些认识的人做博士后在类似领域发表了
不少ｐａｐｅｒ。
看来这两个例子还是说明ｐａｐｅｒ牛是硬通货。
【在 I*****2 的大作中提到】
: 土人，数据库的第一个全是顶级会议。
: 第二个的老板牛而且那个pnas IF有10左右。
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
c*a
15 楼
什么年月了还看journal paper
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
l*r
16 楼
你不是CS专业的吧？居然用journal来评价一个人的research？
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
m*y
17 楼
第2个是女的，你知道么？并且师承很牛，你给了这派人的面子，以后人家也会给你面子
要是有黑人女的博士毕业想做教授，只要不太离谱，估计都有人要。
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: kaka,所以上来问嘛。我也说了不是一个领域的，不是很清楚这些分量。比如第二个，
: 开始以为是做心理物理研究的，因为我就知道有些认识的人做博士后在类似领域发表了
: 不少ｐａｐｅｒ。
: 看来这两个例子还是说明ｐａｐｅｒ牛是硬通货。
要是有黑人女的博士毕业想做教授，只要不太离谱，估计都有人要。
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: kaka,所以上来问嘛。我也说了不是一个领域的，不是很清楚这些分量。比如第二个，
: 开始以为是做心理物理研究的，因为我就知道有些认识的人做博士后在类似领域发表了
: 不少ｐａｐｅｒ。
: 看来这两个例子还是说明ｐａｐｅｒ牛是硬通货。
z*l
18 楼
第一个， SIGMOD， VLDB， ICDE
第二个，PNAS
fellows.
conference
papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
第二个，PNAS
fellows.
conference
papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
U*I
19 楼
Lifeifei的paper确实到不了UIUC/princeton/stanford faculty的那个级别
但是人家师承太nb了
她有两个老板，perona和koch
malik系和poggio系的第三代传人
cv界能不认吗？
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
: 很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
但是人家师承太nb了
她有两个老板，perona和koch
malik系和poggio系的第三代传人
cv界能不认吗？
【在 T**********n 的大作中提到】
: 您这里第二个lifeifei可是perona的学生，malik系第三代传人
: 很牛逼的，后面的paper不是呜嚷呜嚷的发么
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
H*r
20 楼
Feifei Li transfered from here to there in short time,not a good sign.
She may want to trade time for space.
【在 U*I 的大作中提到】
: Lifeifei的paper确实到不了UIUC/princeton/stanford faculty的那个级别
: 但是人家师承太nb了
: 她有两个老板，perona和koch
: malik系和poggio系的第三代传人
: cv界能不认吗？
She may want to trade time for space.
【在 U*I 的大作中提到】
: Lifeifei的paper确实到不了UIUC/princeton/stanford faculty的那个级别
: 但是人家师承太nb了
: 她有两个老板，perona和koch
: malik系和poggio系的第三代传人
: cv界能不认吗？
w*g
21 楼
都读到这份上了,还相信Paper起绝对作用.
l*o
22 楼
1st feifei has best student paper, and he has cooperated with a lot of famou
s people in his field. he is very social and established very strong connect
ions in academic.
2nd feifei is also very active in vision, but her former advisor's recommend
ation accounts a lot. moreover, female faculty position is always easier to
get than male's...
in fact, i think the most important thing is to get funding. if you are rich
, or make people believe you will be rich, than you can apply any school...
fe
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
s people in his field. he is very social and established very strong connect
ions in academic.
2nd feifei is also very active in vision, but her former advisor's recommend
ation accounts a lot. moreover, female faculty position is always easier to
get than male's...
in fact, i think the most important thing is to get funding. if you are rich
, or make people believe you will be rich, than you can apply any school...
fe
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
l*o
23 楼
in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
ing to a conf first for CS.
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: 什么年月了还看journal paper
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
ing to a conf first for CS.
【在 c***a 的大作中提到】
: 什么年月了还看journal paper
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
l*e
24 楼
I don't think it is true at least for DB.
for eg this year in our dept, two phd applicants, one with a TKDE(top db
journal) and a few other 2tier conf, one with prob only one VLDB(top conf),
the latter got the offer. I asked my advisor why the former didn't get an
offer with a top journal pub, the answer was top journal usaully wasn't that
impressive(unless the prelimiary version appears in a top conf).
hire
jo
submitt
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
for eg this year in our dept, two phd applicants, one with a TKDE(top db
journal) and a few other 2tier conf, one with prob only one VLDB(top conf),
the latter got the offer. I asked my advisor why the former didn't get an
offer with a top journal pub, the answer was top journal usaully wasn't that
impressive(unless the prelimiary version appears in a top conf).
hire
jo
submitt
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
w*o
25 楼
你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
conf.
至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
hire
jo
submitt
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
conf.
至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
hire
jo
submitt
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
g*g
26 楼
conf有不同级别吧，很多conf烂得不行。
then
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
: conf.
: 至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
then
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
: conf.
: 至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
b*t
27 楼
en
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: conf有不同级别吧，很多conf烂得不行。
:
: then
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: conf有不同级别吧，很多conf烂得不行。
:
: then
l*r
28 楼
那是肯定阿。前面讨论的第一个li feifei，是做DB的，基本招faculty的时候就看3个
会：SIGMOD, VLDB, ICDE。他发了很多，所以够资格。至于journal，稍微好点的学校
招faculty根本不会看的。如果你是做DB的想找faculty，没有这3个会的会议文章，发
再多journal也没用。我只听说有的teaching school会看你的journal.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: conf有不同级别吧，很多conf烂得不行。
:
: then
会：SIGMOD, VLDB, ICDE。他发了很多，所以够资格。至于journal，稍微好点的学校
招faculty根本不会看的。如果你是做DB的想找faculty，没有这3个会的会议文章，发
再多journal也没用。我只听说有的teaching school会看你的journal.
【在 g*****g 的大作中提到】
: conf有不同级别吧，很多conf烂得不行。
:
: then
p*n
29 楼
lol...
你cs哪个方向的？
hire
jo
submitt
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
你cs哪个方向的？
hire
jo
submitt
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
d*e
30 楼
谁告诉你的？
then
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
: conf.
: 至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
then
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
: conf.
: 至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
d*e
31 楼
DB是一个几乎只看会议的领域。
但是CV,ML领域，期刊的分量也很重JMLR，PAMI,IJCV等等分量也都很重。
CVPR和ICML里的分账错综复杂，级别划分远没有DB的会议那么清晰。
所以期刊是鉴别文章高下的最好方法。
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: 那是肯定阿。前面讨论的第一个li feifei，是做DB的，基本招faculty的时候就看3个
: 会：SIGMOD, VLDB, ICDE。他发了很多，所以够资格。至于journal，稍微好点的学校
: 招faculty根本不会看的。如果你是做DB的想找faculty，没有这3个会的会议文章，发
: 再多journal也没用。我只听说有的teaching school会看你的journal.
但是CV,ML领域，期刊的分量也很重JMLR，PAMI,IJCV等等分量也都很重。
CVPR和ICML里的分账错综复杂，级别划分远没有DB的会议那么清晰。
所以期刊是鉴别文章高下的最好方法。
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: 那是肯定阿。前面讨论的第一个li feifei，是做DB的，基本招faculty的时候就看3个
: 会：SIGMOD, VLDB, ICDE。他发了很多，所以够资格。至于journal，稍微好点的学校
: 招faculty根本不会看的。如果你是做DB的想找faculty，没有这3个会的会议文章，发
: 再多journal也没用。我只听说有的teaching school会看你的journal.
I*2
32 楼
就是CVML领域，也还是觉得conference重要，大多数有影响力的journal文章都有个早期
conference version。
倒是见过有的group的学生，利用老板的名声灌了很多烂文章在journal上，甚至顶级jo
urnal，但是一篇top conference都没有的，因为top conference一般都是双盲审稿。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: DB是一个几乎只看会议的领域。
: 但是CV,ML领域，期刊的分量也很重JMLR，PAMI,IJCV等等分量也都很重。
: CVPR和ICML里的分账错综复杂，级别划分远没有DB的会议那么清晰。
: 所以期刊是鉴别文章高下的最好方法。
conference version。
倒是见过有的group的学生，利用老板的名声灌了很多烂文章在journal上，甚至顶级jo
urnal，但是一篇top conference都没有的，因为top conference一般都是双盲审稿。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: DB是一个几乎只看会议的领域。
: 但是CV,ML领域，期刊的分量也很重JMLR，PAMI,IJCV等等分量也都很重。
: CVPR和ICML里的分账错综复杂，级别划分远没有DB的会议那么清晰。
: 所以期刊是鉴别文章高下的最好方法。
v*d
33 楼
这个做faculty时也没有多少paper
http://www.csee.usf.edu/~ytu/
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: 那是肯定阿。前面讨论的第一个li feifei，是做DB的，基本招faculty的时候就看3个
: 会：SIGMOD, VLDB, ICDE。他发了很多，所以够资格。至于journal，稍微好点的学校
: 招faculty根本不会看的。如果你是做DB的想找faculty，没有这3个会的会议文章，发
: 再多journal也没用。我只听说有的teaching school会看你的journal.
http://www.csee.usf.edu/~ytu/
【在 l*********r 的大作中提到】
: 那是肯定阿。前面讨论的第一个li feifei，是做DB的，基本招faculty的时候就看3个
: 会：SIGMOD, VLDB, ICDE。他发了很多，所以够资格。至于journal，稍微好点的学校
: 招faculty根本不会看的。如果你是做DB的想找faculty，没有这3个会的会议文章，发
: 再多journal也没用。我只听说有的teaching school会看你的journal.
y*u
34 楼
TKDE is not a top journal. TKDE papers are those rejected by sigmod/vldb/
icde
or extended versions of icde/other 2nd tier conf papers.
TODS and VLDBJ are better, but still, they mainly serve as a place for
fuller versions of sigmod/vldb papers.
,
that
【在 l******e 的大作中提到】
: I don't think it is true at least for DB.
: for eg this year in our dept, two phd applicants, one with a TKDE(top db
: journal) and a few other 2tier conf, one with prob only one VLDB(top conf),
: the latter got the offer. I asked my advisor why the former didn't get an
: offer with a top journal pub, the answer was top journal usaully wasn't that
: impressive(unless the prelimiary version appears in a top conf).
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
icde
or extended versions of icde/other 2nd tier conf papers.
TODS and VLDBJ are better, but still, they mainly serve as a place for
fuller versions of sigmod/vldb papers.
,
that
【在 l******e 的大作中提到】
: I don't think it is true at least for DB.
: for eg this year in our dept, two phd applicants, one with a TKDE(top db
: journal) and a few other 2tier conf, one with prob only one VLDB(top conf),
: the latter got the offer. I asked my advisor why the former didn't get an
: offer with a top journal pub, the answer was top journal usaully wasn't that
: impressive(unless the prelimiary version appears in a top conf).
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
l*a
35 楼
hire
jo
submitt
not ture, especially for cs.
【在 l********o 的大作中提到】
: in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then conf. when they hire
: fac candidates, they will still treat journals and confs seperately.
: in fact, almost every CS student will try to turn their conf paper into a jo
: urnal. On the other hand, it is unusual to publish a journal without submitt
: ing to a conf first for CS.
l*a
36 楼
Feifei Li is now at Standford Univ, not Princeton ???
v*s
37 楼
feifei.....
she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
fellows.
conference papers)
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: But I saw some other people with more papers are still postdoctoral fellows.
: Just be curious about the criteria to select a faculty member.
: (1)
: no 1st author journal paper
: No knowledge in his research area. Those conference papers may count much.
: http://www.cs.fsu.edu/~lifeifei/research.htm
: (2)
: Another Li Feifei: 5 papers (2 journal papers in psychophysicis + 3 conference papers)
: L. Fei-Fei, R. VanRuellen, C. Koch and P. Perona. Why does natural
: scene categorization require little attention
w*o
38 楼
你的口气有点暧昧亚，是她的暗恋者么
even
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: feifei.....
: she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
: stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
even
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: feifei.....
: she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
: stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
e*g
39 楼
因为她是小时候移民米国，没有身份问题吧，很多老美都不想我们那么按部就班，经常
在年轻时各地转转增加阅历。
even
much.
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: feifei.....
: she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
: stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
在年轻时各地转转增加阅历。
even
much.
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: feifei.....
: she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
: stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
l*o
40 楼
i am in US...it is true conf are always important for phd. Several seniors i
n my group got faculty positions recent years and this is what the committee
told me about the journals and confs. They suggest me turn every conf into
journal. in fact, you will have a lot of competitors who have dozens of conf
too. this spring there are over 800 applicants for CS faculty position in m
y department, and i could hardly say whose publications are more stronger th
an the rest. BUT, the committe still trea
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
: conf.
: 至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
n my group got faculty positions recent years and this is what the committee
told me about the journals and confs. They suggest me turn every conf into
journal. in fact, you will have a lot of competitors who have dozens of conf
too. this spring there are over 800 applicants for CS faculty position in m
y department, and i could hardly say whose publications are more stronger th
an the rest. BUT, the committe still trea
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你是国内的么？居然说 in CS, journal papers are definitely more valuable then
: conf.
: 至少在美国，对于CS大部分方向来说，根本没人看journal。
:
: hire
: jo
: submitt
l*o
41 楼
i have to clarify:
i will not say journals in CS are more valuable then confs in research itsel
f. i seldom read journals, because if there is anything interesting, there u
sually has an short version in conf. after all, it takes quite a long time t
o hear any feedback from a journal. everybody likes confs, we can travel to
different countries, right:)
i know it is ridiculous to say such thing like journal > conf, but this is h
ow they score them. For hundreds of faculty candidates, committee ha
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: DB是一个几乎只看会议的领域。
: 但是CV,ML领域，期刊的分量也很重JMLR，PAMI,IJCV等等分量也都很重。
: CVPR和ICML里的分账错综复杂，级别划分远没有DB的会议那么清晰。
: 所以期刊是鉴别文章高下的最好方法。
i will not say journals in CS are more valuable then confs in research itsel
f. i seldom read journals, because if there is anything interesting, there u
sually has an short version in conf. after all, it takes quite a long time t
o hear any feedback from a journal. everybody likes confs, we can travel to
different countries, right:)
i know it is ridiculous to say such thing like journal > conf, but this is h
ow they score them. For hundreds of faculty candidates, committee ha
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: DB是一个几乎只看会议的领域。
: 但是CV,ML领域，期刊的分量也很重JMLR，PAMI,IJCV等等分量也都很重。
: CVPR和ICML里的分账错综复杂，级别划分远没有DB的会议那么清晰。
: 所以期刊是鉴别文章高下的最好方法。
H*k
42 楼
跳槽了，很匪夷……
UIUC->Princeton->Stanford
她同门R Fergus运气就不如她
MIT postdoc -> NYU
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: Feifei Li is now at Standford Univ, not Princeton ???
UIUC->Princeton->Stanford
她同门R Fergus运气就不如她
MIT postdoc -> NYU
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: Feifei Li is now at Standford Univ, not Princeton ???
N*N
43 楼
Why is it so easy for her to jump from one top school to another within a
couple of years? Is it because that she is a woman?
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: 跳槽了，很匪夷……
: UIUC->Princeton->Stanford
: 她同门R Fergus运气就不如她
: MIT postdoc -> NYU
couple of years? Is it because that she is a woman?
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: 跳槽了，很匪夷……
: UIUC->Princeton->Stanford
: 她同门R Fergus运气就不如她
: MIT postdoc -> NYU
v*s
44 楼
看她主页的朦胧照觉得还行
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你的口气有点暧昧亚，是她的暗恋者么
:
: even
【在 w****o 的大作中提到】
: 你的口气有点暧昧亚，是她的暗恋者么
:
: even
l*a
45 楼
i see. how is Ma Yi @ UIUC ? they have the same research field?
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: 跳槽了，很匪夷……
: UIUC->Princeton->Stanford
: 她同门R Fergus运气就不如她
: MIT postdoc -> NYU
U*I
46 楼
Ma Yi不是去MSRA了吗？不知道能在那呆多久
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
:
: i see. how is Ma Yi @ UIUC ? they have the same research field?
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
:
: i see. how is Ma Yi @ UIUC ? they have the same research field?
H*k
47 楼
老啦, lp说觉得1面目显得很疲倦……
http://videolectures.net/fei_fei_li/
cv的大美女我觉得是http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~grauman/, TD的学生
ml的大美女我觉得是J Neville，purdue的
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/neville/
http://videolectures.net/jennifer_neville/
network的就是版上常见讨论的dina啦
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: 看她主页的朦胧照觉得还行
http://videolectures.net/fei_fei_li/
cv的大美女我觉得是http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~grauman/, TD的学生
ml的大美女我觉得是J Neville，purdue的
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/neville/
http://videolectures.net/jennifer_neville/
network的就是版上常见讨论的dina啦
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: 看她主页的朦胧照觉得还行
v*s
48 楼
zan startup assistant prof mm.
how can she deal with this weird mixture percentage???
2006–present: Assistant Professor, Purdue University
Joint appointment: Computer Science (75%) and Statistics (25%)
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: 老啦, lp说觉得1面目显得很疲倦……
: http://videolectures.net/fei_fei_li/
: cv的大美女我觉得是http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~grauman/, TD的学生
: ml的大美女我觉得是J Neville，purdue的
: http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/neville/
: http://videolectures.net/jennifer_neville/
: network的就是版上常见讨论的dina啦
v*s
49 楼
he's just on leave (sabbatical) in msra, anyway, he's got tenure track, no
reason to stay in msra for long.
【在 U*I 的大作中提到】
: Ma Yi不是去MSRA了吗？不知道能在那呆多久
reason to stay in msra for long.
【在 U*I 的大作中提到】
: Ma Yi不是去MSRA了吗？不知道能在那呆多久
v*s
50 楼
because she has strong background, or, strong advisor.....
【在 N***N 的大作中提到】
: Why is it so easy for her to jump from one top school to another within a
: couple of years? Is it because that she is a woman?
【在 N***N 的大作中提到】
: Why is it so easy for her to jump from one top school to another within a
: couple of years? Is it because that she is a woman?
N*N
51 楼
Many people have strong background/advisors, but very few people can jump
from UIUC to Princeton and to Stanford within 4 years.
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: because she has strong background, or, strong advisor.....
from UIUC to Princeton and to Stanford within 4 years.
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: because she has strong background, or, strong advisor.....
H*k
52 楼
few can or few want to?
jump
【在 N***N 的大作中提到】
: Many people have strong background/advisors, but very few people can jump
: from UIUC to Princeton and to Stanford within 4 years.
jump
【在 N***N 的大作中提到】
: Many people have strong background/advisors, but very few people can jump
: from UIUC to Princeton and to Stanford within 4 years.
e*g
53 楼
Not comparable. Ma Yi is a Marr award winner and his number of citations is
around thousands, and Ma is a tenured professor.
两个人博士毕业年头差那么多，不可比啦
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
:
: i see. how is Ma Yi @ UIUC ? they have the same research field?
around thousands, and Ma is a tenured professor.
两个人博士毕业年头差那么多，不可比啦
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
:
: i see. how is Ma Yi @ UIUC ? they have the same research field?
l*a
54 楼
what kind of professor Feifei can get in Standford? assistant prof. or
associate prof. ?. If still assistant, then for what ?
associate prof. ?. If still assistant, then for what ?
H*k
55 楼
assistant prof, according to her homepage.
i don't see the point either. any insider/insight?
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: what kind of professor Feifei can get in Standford? assistant prof. or
: associate prof. ?. If still assistant, then for what ?
j*a
56 楼
how long she's been at princeton? is she gonna start over?
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
:
: assistant prof, according to her homepage.
: i don't see the point either. any insider/insight?
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
:
: assistant prof, according to her homepage.
: i don't see the point either. any insider/insight?
l*a
57 楼
maybe, next year she will go to caltech.......
H*k
58 楼
home run..
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: maybe, next year she will go to caltech.......
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: maybe, next year she will go to caltech.......
r*y
59 楼
Stanford CS is obviously more sexy than caltech and princeton CS.
I do not think she will make a back move (stanford -> caltech), but stanford
vision direction is almost empty.
UIUC --> princeton --> stanford, its logic is still understandable.
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: maybe, next year she will go to caltech.......
I do not think she will make a back move (stanford -> caltech), but stanford
vision direction is almost empty.
UIUC --> princeton --> stanford, its logic is still understandable.
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: maybe, next year she will go to caltech.......
T*n
60 楼
斯坦福很多年之前有个vision group
但是后来被全锅端了，有好事者可以来八卦一下，呵呵
lifeifei也不是来恢复vision group的
stanford
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: Stanford CS is obviously more sexy than caltech and princeton CS.
: I do not think she will make a back move (stanford -> caltech), but stanford
: vision direction is almost empty.
: UIUC --> princeton --> stanford, its logic is still understandable.
但是后来被全锅端了，有好事者可以来八卦一下，呵呵
lifeifei也不是来恢复vision group的
stanford
【在 r*****y 的大作中提到】
: Stanford CS is obviously more sexy than caltech and princeton CS.
: I do not think she will make a back move (stanford -> caltech), but stanford
: vision direction is almost empty.
: UIUC --> princeton --> stanford, its logic is still understandable.
d*z
61 楼
好像和她LG有关吧
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: what kind of professor Feifei can get in Standford? assistant prof. or
: associate prof. ?. If still assistant, then for what ?
【在 l*********a 的大作中提到】
: what kind of professor Feifei can get in Standford? assistant prof. or
: associate prof. ?. If still assistant, then for what ?
n*n
62 楼
哇，这位一看就是业内人事，来八卦一下
【在 d**z 的大作中提到】
: 好像和她LG有关吧
【在 d**z 的大作中提到】
: 好像和她LG有关吧
k*e
63 楼
她老公在加州工作，over
H*k
64 楼
唉，一下子就没悬念了……
我还以为她有什么特大发现被斯坦福瞬间挖过去了……
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】
: 她老公在加州工作，over
我还以为她有什么特大发现被斯坦福瞬间挖过去了……
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】
: 她老公在加州工作，over
w*g
65 楼
这个feifei的折腾能力非我等猥琐男能比的。paper有个P用。
even
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: feifei.....
: she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
: stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
even
【在 v****s 的大作中提到】
: feifei.....
: she's an awesome prof. with fantastic experience (social/research).... even
: stayed Tibet for one year after her graduation.....
:
: fellows.
: conference papers)
d*e
66 楼
她老公不是在UMich么？
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】
: 她老公在加州工作，over
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】
: 她老公在加州工作，over
j*a
67 楼
长得还行啊 尤其是小辫那张
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】
: 她老公在加州工作，over
【在 k**e 的大作中提到】
: 她老公在加州工作，over
N*N
68 楼
Details please? Maybe we can learn a little.
【在 w***g 的大作中提到】
: 这个feifei的折腾能力非我等猥琐男能比的。paper有个P用。
:
: even
【在 w***g 的大作中提到】
: 这个feifei的折腾能力非我等猥琐男能比的。paper有个P用。
:
: even
m*y
69 楼
她LG是个意大利人吧
【在 d**z 的大作中提到】
: 好像和她LG有关吧
【在 d**z 的大作中提到】
: 好像和她LG有关吧
d*e
70 楼
难道不是UMich EES那个搞ision的？
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 她LG是个意大利人吧
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 她LG是个意大利人吧
n*n
71 楼
你们这帮人八卦都不靠谱啊
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 难道不是UMich EES那个搞ision的？
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 难道不是UMich EES那个搞ision的？
b*t
72 楼
来来来 大吐蕃来爆个料
【在 n********n 的大作中提到】
: 你们这帮人八卦都不靠谱啊
【在 n********n 的大作中提到】
: 你们这帮人八卦都不靠谱啊
n*n
73 楼
我没有料啊，我只是来八卦的
【在 b******t 的大作中提到】
: 来来来 大吐蕃来爆个料
【在 b******t 的大作中提到】
: 来来来 大吐蕃来爆个料
a*g
74 楼
VLDB, SIGMOD是很牛的conference。
如果phd期间能在VLDB/SIGMOD发三篇第一作者的文章，
基本可以搞定一般学校的位置
如果老板牛，关系好，好一点学校的也不是不可能的。
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: 我孤陋寡闻。
: 不过仔细看她后来的ｐｕｂｌｉｃａｔｉｏｎ，没有呜嚷呜嚷的啊。
: 发的杂志好像也不是ｔｏｐ的。
: 主要是我知道有些类似的人发类似的ｐａｐｅｒ的。
如果phd期间能在VLDB/SIGMOD发三篇第一作者的文章，
基本可以搞定一般学校的位置
如果老板牛，关系好，好一点学校的也不是不可能的。
【在 m******u 的大作中提到】
: 我孤陋寡闻。
: 不过仔细看她后来的ｐｕｂｌｉｃａｔｉｏｎ，没有呜嚷呜嚷的啊。
: 发的杂志好像也不是ｔｏｐ的。
: 主要是我知道有些类似的人发类似的ｐａｐｅｒ的。
H*k
75 楼
http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~silvio/index.html
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 她LG是个意大利人吧
【在 m*****y 的大作中提到】
: 她LG是个意大利人吧
d*e
76 楼
哈哈,你得到的八卦消息和我一样,我也听说这个人是她老公
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~silvio/index.html
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~silvio/index.html
j*a
77 楼
有几分ws啊
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~silvio/index.html
【在 H**********k 的大作中提到】
: http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~silvio/index.html
a*0
78 楼
我听说女生好找…………
H*k
79 楼
我从她主页看到路的链接。不确认。
还是Eric Xing好，两口子都是中国教授。羡慕。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈,你得到的八卦消息和我一样,我也听说这个人是她老公
还是Eric Xing好，两口子都是中国教授。羡慕。
【在 d******e 的大作中提到】
: 哈哈,你得到的八卦消息和我一样,我也听说这个人是她老公
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