主席：王华瀚先生。

王华瀚先生：我要请蔡瑞隆高级政务次长澄清一个问题。我感谢高级政务次长在发言中讲述了这些令人鼓舞的故事，并呼吁大家行动起来。

新加坡社会及家庭发展部或新加坡协助残障者自立局，是否积极追踪和接触那些成功从庇护工场毕业到工作计划的人？比如说在一年或两年后，以确保他们不会在过渡后的几年内再次陷入失业或回到庇护工场。我这样问，是因为我和你一样，或许也和其他议员一样，担心我们可能会过于执着于2030年残疾人士就业率达到40%的目标，而无意中忽略了残疾人士公开就业的稳定性。

蔡瑞隆先生：感谢王先生的发言。我认为有一点要注意的是，随着去年在裕廊的包容性就业中心设立，我们向残疾人提供的就业支持服务从一年增加到两年，而且在需要时，就业支持服务的强度实际上也可以增加。因此，我手头没有关于有多少残疾人在一年后或在不同的阶段内再次失业的数字，但请放心，我们有热情和意愿真正帮助残疾人，不仅仅是找到工作，而是真正维持和保持就业。

The Chairman: Mr Ong Hua Han.

Mr Ong Hua Han: I have a clarification for Senior Parliamentary Secretary Eric Chua. I thank Senior Parliamentary Secretary for those encouraging stories and an inspiring call to action in your speech.

Does MSF or SG Enable actively track and engage those who successfully graduate from the Sheltered Workshop-to-Work (SWW) Programme, say after one or two years, to ensure that they do not fall back into unemployment or sheltered workshops a few years post-transition? I ask this because I do share your concern and perhaps those of other Members as well, that we might become too fixated on the EMP 2030 target of 40% employment and inadvertently neglect stability of open employment of PwDs.

Mr Eric Chua: I thank Mr Ong for his clarification. I think a quick point to note is that with the launch of the Enabling Business Hub in Jurong last year, we have facilitated an increase of job support services that is provided to PwDs from one year to two years and the intensity of job support services is actually increased, where needed. So, I do not have the numbers on hand as to how many of PwDs drop out after one year and at the different milestone times, but rest assured that the passion as well as the appetite to really look at helping a PwD, not just land the job, but to really sustain and remain in employment is there.

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