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anyone helps me to read this contract# Law - 律师事务所

f*y2008-07-19 07:07

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发信人: fuzzymemory (提问前注意考古), 信区: Programming
标题: ruby on rails 和 php
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 20 14:22:44 2008)
RoR到底是个什么东东，能举个例子说说它和php的关系吗？是不是类似j2ee和java的关
系？为什么很多小startup都用这东西作de facto工具。

m*r2008-07-19 07:07

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都high school，就穿得非常贵族化

e*e2008-07-19 07:07

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recently, our family will move out from the current apartment.
I read the original lease, it says
TERM. the tenacy under this agreement shall commence on February 1, 2007 and
continue for continuing until February 1,2010.{This agreement shall be
automatically extended for successive periods of one year following the
initial term, unless either party notifies the other at least thrity days in
advance of the end of the the-current term in writing of its election to
terminate this agreement.}
Does

s*h2008-07-19 07:07

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我就看过一点ruby on rails，感觉跟php没啥关系

【在 f*********y 的大作中提到】

: 发信人: fuzzymemory (提问前注意考古), 信区: Programming
: 标题: ruby on rails 和 php
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Apr 20 14:22:44 2008)
: RoR到底是个什么东东，能举个例子说说它和php的关系吗？是不是类似j2ee和java的关
: 系？为什么很多小startup都用这东西作de facto工具。

d*w2008-07-19 07:07

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人家本来就是贵族啊

【在 m********r 的大作中提到】

: 都high school，就穿得非常贵族化

D*s2008-07-19 07:07

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It's the "automatic extension" term that will be valid for three years.
Before 2010, the lease will automatic extend for one more year if you fails
to notify the landlord in writing of your election to terminate the lease.
After 2010, if no new agreement is reached, the relation between you and the
landlord will become tenancy at will, meaning that either of you could
terminate the lease at anytime. Alternatively, it may become something like
a periodic tenancy, meaning that the lease is renew

l*s2008-07-19 07:07

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对J2EE不熟,但ROR是个FRAMEWORK,智能程度高,手熟的话,比PHP写网站快,比如经常有人
BSO一个小时写出个BLOG网站等等.当然也比PHP运行慢.

d*e2008-07-19 07:07

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算不上吧，也就是有钱人吧

【在 d**w 的大作中提到】

: 人家本来就是贵族啊

e*e2008-07-19 07:07

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thank you for your reply. I appreciate you can make me more clear:
We live there since Feb 1, 2007 and will move out Aug 15, 2008. We notify (
verbal not in writing) the landlord at the end of June of 2007.
In such situation, do we break the lease?

f*y2008-07-19 07:07

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如果是framework, 那这个ror和drupal属于同类产品？
drupal下面用得语言是php。

【在 l***s 的大作中提到】

: 对J2EE不熟,但ROR是个FRAMEWORK,智能程度高,手熟的话,比PHP写网站快,比如经常有人
: BSO一个小时写出个BLOG网站等等.当然也比PHP运行慢.

f*a2008-07-19 07:07

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高中生们都很成人化

i*y2008-07-19 07:07

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since you didn't notify your landlord to terminate the lease before Jan 1,
2007 (which is thirty days before Feb 1, 2007, the first year lease
expiration date), according to the clause, your lease was “automatically extended for successive periods of one year following the
initial term," i.e., to Feb 1, 2009.
You may want to talk to your landlord, if he/she doesn't mind, you are fine.
Did he/she try to enforce the lease?

【在 e******e 的大作中提到】

: thank you for your reply. I appreciate you can make me more clear:
: We live there since Feb 1, 2007 and will move out Aug 15, 2008. We notify (
: verbal not in writing) the landlord at the end of June of 2007.
: In such situation, do we break the lease?

l*s2008-07-19 07:07

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没用过drupal
ruby is the language php
rails is framework
所以叫ROR

r*x2008-07-19 07:07

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难道你要人穿Sears, Forever 21之类的便宜货？还让不让观众YY了？

【在 m********r 的大作中提到】

: 都high school，就穿得非常贵族化

s*h2008-07-19 07:07

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drupal好像是个cms，用php写的

【在 l***s 的大作中提到】

: 没用过drupal
: ruby is the language php
: rails is framework
: 所以叫ROR

a*g2008-07-19 07:07

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岂止是衣服啊。。所有滴包包偶一个都买不起。咔咔

【在 r*x 的大作中提到】

:
: 难道你要人穿Sears, Forever 21之类的便宜货？还让不让观众YY了？

g*g2008-07-19 07:07

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Ruby is language
Rails is the framework
Overall:
J2EE is good for large and complex enterprise application
.Net is good for small to medium size enterprise application
PHP, ASP is good for websites that do not need a lot of backend integration
and interface with other site.
Ruby on Rails is good for beginner who want to learn and compose a site in
the shortest time.
.cgi is good for site need the best performance.
Cold Fusion is easier than PHP and ASP but not as good.
These are just a rough imp

【在 f*********y 的大作中提到】

s*t2008-07-19 07:07

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都是有钱的人家除了丹那一家衣服都要都外边租

a*e2008-07-19 07:07

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CGI的性能不可能是最好的，至少Servlet/JSP都比它好。

integration

【在 g********g 的大作中提到】

: Ruby is language
: Rails is the framework
: Overall:
: J2EE is good for large and complex enterprise application
: .Net is good for small to medium size enterprise application
: PHP, ASP is good for websites that do not need a lot of backend integration
: and interface with other site.
: Ruby on Rails is good for beginner who want to learn and compose a site in
: the shortest time.
: .cgi is good for site need the best performance.

r*x2008-07-19 07:07

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关键是人身材好，同样的衣服要是人腰再粗点腿再短点的话就再贵也好看不到哪里去了

【在 m********r 的大作中提到】

: 都high school，就穿得非常贵族化

t*y2008-07-19 07:07

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RoR需要专门的hosting
不如php、aspx hosting的site多

integration

【在 g********g 的大作中提到】

g*g2008-07-19 07:07

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其实Servlet/JSP 是在性能最差之列, JSP 本质上就是Servlet, 根本原因是it要在JVM
上run. Application Server 的 Overhead 也很高, 如果再构架的不好, 用上一堆
third party .jar files, 那基本上慢得不能用, .NET 也一样, 要在CLR上RUN. CGI
如果用 C 之类的写, 可以直接编译成NATIVE CODE. 我以前看过一个BENCHMARK 说, 同
样的操作, 用CGI在一定的时间内可以RUN 300次, PHP/ASP可以100次, J2EE和.NET只能
30次, COLD FUSION比PHP/ASP稍微慢点. 当然和PHP/ASP之类的比, Servlet/JSP也不是
任何时候都慢, 比如大量数学计算, JAVA要比SCRIPT LANGUAGE快, 但还是远比不不上C
之类的可以编译成机器语言的语言.

【在 a**e 的大作中提到】

: CGI的性能不可能是最好的，至少Servlet/JSP都比它好。
:
: integration

g*g2008-07-19 07:07

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Agree, 从HOSTING 角度来说, PHP > .net, ASP >> others.

【在 t*****y 的大作中提到】

: RoR需要专门的hosting
: 不如php、aspx hosting的site多
:
: integration

K*Q2008-07-19 07:07

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原来的CGI比较吃资源吧，要开很多进程
现在可能好了，没怎么跟踪过

JVM
上C

【在 g********g 的大作中提到】

: 其实Servlet/JSP 是在性能最差之列, JSP 本质上就是Servlet, 根本原因是it要在JVM
: 上run. Application Server 的 Overhead 也很高, 如果再构架的不好, 用上一堆
: third party .jar files, 那基本上慢得不能用, .NET 也一样, 要在CLR上RUN. CGI
: 如果用 C 之类的写, 可以直接编译成NATIVE CODE. 我以前看过一个BENCHMARK 说, 同
: 样的操作, 用CGI在一定的时间内可以RUN 300次, PHP/ASP可以100次, J2EE和.NET只能
: 30次, COLD FUSION比PHP/ASP稍微慢点. 当然和PHP/ASP之类的比, Servlet/JSP也不是
: 任何时候都慢, 比如大量数学计算, JAVA要比SCRIPT LANGUAGE快, 但还是远比不不上C
: 之类的可以编译成机器语言的语言.

g*g2008-07-19 07:07

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Agree, CGI 就是开发管理起来太麻烦, 现在也基本没人用了.

【在 K*Q 的大作中提到】

: 原来的CGI比较吃资源吧，要开很多进程
: 现在可能好了，没怎么跟踪过
:
: JVM
: 上C

b*y2008-07-19 07:07

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I am a java guy. I don't like those scripting languages for performance
critical situations. So, php, ruby on rail, those to me, are out of the
question.
To be frank, to me those are "kids" stuff.
If c/c++ could be run on all platforms, I would be happy to use a compiled
language like c/c++. Right now, the closest to me is java.

e*x2008-07-19 07:07

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但是Servlet/JSP对服务器的要求高。PHP的空间很便宜就能找到，
Servlet/JSP就要花大价钱了。

【在 a**e 的大作中提到】

: CGI的性能不可能是最好的，至少Servlet/JSP都比它好。
:
: integration

a*e2008-07-19 07:07

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你见过哪个OS上没有C/C++程序的？

【在 b******y 的大作中提到】

: I am a java guy. I don't like those scripting languages for performance
: critical situations. So, php, ruby on rail, those to me, are out of the
: question.
: To be frank, to me those are "kids" stuff.
: If c/c++ could be run on all platforms, I would be happy to use a compiled
: language like c/c++. Right now, the closest to me is java.

t*y2008-07-19 07:07

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I think php can be compiled
aspx definitly will be compiled

【在 b******y 的大作中提到】

c*c2008-07-19 07:07

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fastcgi,mod_perl很快

【在 a**e 的大作中提到】

: CGI的性能不可能是最好的，至少Servlet/JSP都比它好。
:
: integration

I*72008-07-19 07:07

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传统的cgi不管是用c/c++,perl,sh 或 php，也就是一个request，一个process
正在被淘汰。现在的fastcgi和各种 mod_*或许可以改进cgi的performance。但是我还
是最爱 servlet/jsp，我的网站都是用 java，正确使用 servlet/jsp 给你最安全最能
scale 的 application。最讨厌的是 struts 和 hibernate，那是忽弄那些想在公司
混的，创业的人傻瓜才用它们。

b*y2008-07-19 07:07

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IT8097, I totally agree with you. I think java performance has improved a
LOT these couple of years. Also, it is a good trade off using Java. You gain
the easy development using Java, but also good performance in runtime.
I don't like struts or hibernate either. struts is too complicated.
hibernate is like another shell around database. So, from my past experience
, struts or hibernate won't deliver the good performance for the website.

【在 I****7 的大作中提到】

: 传统的cgi不管是用c/c++,perl,sh 或 php，也就是一个request，一个process
: 正在被淘汰。现在的fastcgi和各种 mod_*或许可以改进cgi的performance。但是我还
: 是最爱 servlet/jsp，我的网站都是用 java，正确使用 servlet/jsp 给你最安全最能
: scale 的 application。最讨厌的是 struts 和 hibernate，那是忽弄那些想在公司
: 混的，创业的人傻瓜才用它们。

g*g2008-07-19 07:07

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struts or hibernate, EJB, 甚至J2EE都不是用来做一般的网站的, struts or
hibernate用来做大型的ENTERPRISE APPLICATION的, 把多个层之间的结构理清的确比
较容易构架,容易分工.
用J2EE来做一般的网站注意点的话的确performance 还可以, 但万万比不过PHP之类的,
好象连.NET都比不过, .NET的JIT做得比JAVA性能好, J2EE来做一般的网站的最大问题
是开发周期太长, 用PHP之类一小时能干的事情, J2EE可能要两三小时或更长. STARTUP
可能损失不起这个时间. 当然JAVA 有很多好的PACKAGE, 比如Lucene, 要用这些的话
可能只好用J2EE.

gain
experience

【在 b******y 的大作中提到】

:
: IT8097, I totally agree with you. I think java performance has improved a
: LOT these couple of years. Also, it is a good trade off using Java. You gain
: the easy development using Java, but also good performance in runtime.
: I don't like struts or hibernate either. struts is too complicated.
: hibernate is like another shell around database. So, from my past experience
: , struts or hibernate won't deliver the good performance for the website.

b*y2008-07-19 07:07

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I don't quite agree. I think Java is better compared to dot not ;-)
For example, indeed.com, is written in java.
Also, become.com, is written in java too.
There are LOT of performance oriented websites that are coded using java and
they are just great.

g*g2008-07-19 07:07

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There are many sites use java right. Indeed used the lucene engine of java.
If you looked at the top 100 sites or top 1000 in alexa and see how many
sites actually used java, you will get the idea.

and

【在 b******y 的大作中提到】

: I don't quite agree. I think Java is better compared to dot not ;-)
: For example, indeed.com, is written in java.
: Also, become.com, is written in java too.
: There are LOT of performance oriented websites that are coded using java and
: they are just great.