巧妇为米是思维的问题没有那个思维巧妇难为无米炊Stanford $5 thinking box:

来源: dhyang_wxc 于 2023-11-02 07:58:01

回答: 旧思维，新文化 由 stonebench 于 2023-11-01 12:15:24 是思维的问题。没有那个思维，巧妇难为无米炊——热气哄哄，红火熊熊，它没米在里面，说什么好？

张祥龙说的就是，整个思维被蔡阉割了。只有极少数人能自己偶然、碰巧、奋力逃脱——然后被围剿。

子曰，不可使知之。

巧妇难为无米, but she can think of wheat flour, meat, and fruits. Why stick with rice? That notion got me the below:

Stanford $5 thinking box:

The professor assigned $5 to each student to invest within 2 hours. The winner will be the one with the highest return. Guess how the winner was doing?

The winner:

only one student threw $5 (refused to think from the $5 angle); she thought outside the $5 box and went out saying to talk with companies - she would serve as a consultant and signed contracts with a few companies. She secured consulting contracts with down payments. This student's approach demonstrates resourcefulness and an ability to think creatively.

The losers: 

All the other students put $5 framework to rentals, to clean places, free service,...

conventional methods like renting and cleaning might have generated some income within the given time frame, but their returns might have been relatively modest. 

 

The sources of my inspiration for the post above, are as follows.

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• 子曰，不可使知之。君臣父子，各歸其位，不可妄思！ -TJKCB-    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 postreply 09:48:59

• 巧妇=米, why only rice? -TJKCB-    (448 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023 postreply 09:57:01

 

• 旧思维，新文化 - stonebench -    (2191 bytes) (6504 reads) 11/01/2023  12:15:24 (5)

• 还是要思考这个大一统思维是否窒息民主和科学。 - Dayoufan -   (177 bytes) (11 reads) 11/01/2023  13:04:27

• 这个俺同意一半。新文化运动时确实需要考虑保留传统会不会影响变革的速度。 - stonebench -    (125 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023  20:18:38

• 在政治上，如果没有向外获利空间，开拓意识就必然内转～～： 西方现有制度的成功很大程度是大航海以来以极低成本占有了大量资源 - 方外居士 -   (0 bytes) (4 reads) 11/01/2023  14:24:06

• 这使得外向开拓获利而不是内卷成为可能。现在的西方仍然在收获这个红利，只是方式变了。 - 方外居士 -   (0 bytes) (3 reads) 11/01/2023  14:27:46

• 今后这个制度能否继续下去极大地取决于能否继续获得新的低成本资源。比如技术的进步让以前的废物变成宝贝。 - 方外居士 -   (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023  15:11:19

• 完全同意。事实上西方崛起就是源于大航海后，发现并占领了殖民地。 - 为人父 -    (51 bytes) (3 reads) 11/01/2023  19:18:29

• 二元对立的思维=(赛先生开拓创收+ 德先生妥协机制后台分利) - TJKCB -    (846 bytes) (25 reads) 11/01/2023  15:05:05

• 有象斯有对，对必反其为，有反斯有仇，仇必和而解 - TJKCB -    (16333 bytes) (20 reads) 11/01/2023  15:23:04 (2)

• we must expand 德先生妥协机制后台分利Two wheels move along - TJKCB -    (432 bytes) (11 reads) 11/01/2023  15:25:13

• 中文很棒～～ - 盈盈一笑间 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023  17:49:26

• 莫非中文不是母语才特别赞中文棒？ - 方外居士 -   (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023  18:57:52

• 好像是英文比中文好。 - 盈盈一笑间 -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/01/2023  19:31:21

• 也有同感 - 方外居士 -   (0 bytes) (0 reads) 11/01/2023  20:16:16

• The clash betw/ individualism (West) and collectivism (East) - TJKCB -    (1848 bytes) (18 reads) 11/01/2023  15:37:59 (1)

• 此贴请转美坛，展开讨论。：） - 盈盈一笑间 -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023  17:50:08

• 对德先生赛先生的新理解 - 盈盈一笑间 -    (0 bytes) (3 reads) 11/01/2023  17:49:03 (1)

• 很有這個原因。但我還是覺得是某种禀性的人才這麽想的。那麽關鍵問題是為什麽這部分人最终在中国勝出，而成為書寫歷史者。 - 中间小谢 -   (354 bytes) (23 reads) 11/01/2023  19:52:48 (1)

• 我相信是因為中國當時恰處於衰微之時，故我下面說的"分流"之中，小智短見成了主流。如果同样的歷史際遇出现在唐宋， - 中间小谢 -   (131 bytes) (11 reads) 11/01/2023  20:30:00 (1)

• “人才由于学术”。传统学术能容许民国这些人的出现，这些人回过身，弄它个断根，再无人才。。。。这是百年史。 - dhyang_wxc -    (0 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023  08:04:46 (1)

• 楊振寧 梁漱溟 against 民主絕對主義/尺有所短，寸有所長/survival is measured - TJKCB -    (104 bytes) (1 reads) 11/02/2023  09:36:40

• 赞！紧扣内核，简明意赅。也赞同前面石教授客观宽容地看待新文化运动之于中国社会大背景。-：） - 有言 -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/01/2023  21:57:13 (1)

• 是思维的问题。没有那个思维，巧妇难为无米炊——热气哄哄，红火熊熊，它没米在里面，说什么好？ - dhyang_wxc -    (179 bytes) (7 reads) 11/02/2023  07:58:01 (1)

• 子曰，不可使知之。君臣父子，各歸其位，不可妄思！ - TJKCB -    (0 bytes) (2 reads) 11/02/2023  09:48:59

• 巧妇=米, why only rice? - TJKCB -    (448 bytes) (3 reads) 11/02/2023  09:57:01

这世界真是处处有墙，很多人没意识到而已。越是自负的人越是在墙里打转。：）

ok，再贴一遍这个跟贴；

大概米最便宜吧，对中国人来说。

就像一个只会送批萨的，告诉中国人吃米不好。你不能像他一样批评批萨；不能喂给他米吃；也不能告诉他，你连你自己那个批萨如何好，哪里坏都没整明白；讲“呸”，又不礼貌——礼教就是这样。这些都不重要，送批萨的doordash guy满街都是，谁理得过来？新文化运动那些文化买办，就是doordash，中国人迷迷糊糊，听音译为大da师sh。

道可道，非常道，其中一个含义就是，你要是在一个封闭的box里，就会有可道的道；不封闭，那么任何可道的道，就都有局限，因而不是那个常道。道可传，不可受。你这个例子里，只有一个人可受。人多了，就不对了，世上没那么便宜的事。

 

It will be an issue If everybody thinks in a creative way.

Only a small portion of individuals can be creative

being creative is to figure out

the unfigured, 

that is,

still,

in the box.

True, still in the box. Like stock, most people lose creativ

"the unfigured, still in the box" who made the box?

Who got the say? Who made the rule of Tax? The Briton, so triggered American Revolution.    "being creative is to figure out 

the unfigured, 

that is,

still,

in the box."

doordash=大da师sh[it]=comprador=Con artists

Modern society lost in aristocracy failure of leading mass

What is an aristocracy in simple terms?         An aristocracy is a form of government where a small group of elites rule. Aristocrats, or the ruling elites, tend to enjoy both social and economic prestige as well as political power. They usually have a specific honorary title, such as Duke, Duchess, Baron, Baroness, etc.

Good point

英国不曾中断的贵族传统和文化现在仍然影响着现代社会

I don't get the story.

What the winner did didn't seem to have anything to do with the $5 assignement. And how could she secure consulting contracts with downpayments with some companies within two hours?

 

Neither Prince Charles nor his son Harry; both got lost

Selling the Stanford brand! Look at up the case

Humans are measured by 处处有墙. Why not?

Humans are measured by 处处有墙. Why not? 处处有墙 provides us with security. So to speak, nations, regions, city, house, school, etc.

superstitious to addict to Stanford consultants, selling

Many superstitious to addict to Stanford consultants

But this sounds more like manipulation to me.

It reminds me of Theranos and many Wall Street style manipulations.

At the end of the days, no true creavities sinece no true produce.

Not quite manipulative, but the truth survives.box of ethics

Not quite manipulative, but the truth survives. In the context to judge bad or good culture, I elaborated on the line: winning should be in the box of ethical humanity.  Both Theranos and many Wall Street style manipulations were out of this box.

being X is a box, Xbox: )

being is not being.

Being something is in a beingbox.

hehe, Pandora's box.

Elon Musk drew X box, so boxed all but himself

Elon Musk drew X box, so boxed all but himself. So, out of the box, you must be the one who draw the box.

More to ask who made Pandora's box?

I mean the values of 贵族 still the main stream values

老子那个出了box，也还有道。pandora那个出box就糟了。朱熹没搞明白这一区别。但他知道老子如出了box，就不得了

，朱熹管它叫“大无状”。中国人顶尖的，都在试图搞明白box外的道。box里的，都交给工匠了。佛家和基督教，都是从box外往里看，telling you who made the box。

why not go alone? 你这个例子里，只有一个人可受。人多了，就不对了，世上没那么便宜的事。

你这个例子里，只有一个人可受。人多了，就不对了，世上没那么便宜的事。

"pandora那个出box就糟了" but there is another box 4 pandora in CTL

"pandora那个出box就糟了" but there is another box of being beyond pandora box, so to the pandora box is in another box - still in control: perhaps, that is what you called 也还有道?

Sure do. but who? where? How? humanity is lost

Elon Musk? He drew X box, so boxed all but himself

Elon Musk pointed out: something is wrong but no solution.

 Elon Musk pointed it out: something is wrong but no solution yet. It used to fall onto aristocrats to lead the public. The definition of aristocrats, laying his life for the ordinary, was the leader to die first in a combat  in a combat battalion in the  cold weapon age. 

aristocrats, laying his life for the ordinary, die first in

 Elon Musk pointed it out: something is wrong but no solution yet. It used to fall onto aristocrats to lead the public. The definition of aristocrats, laying his life for the ordinary, was the leader to die first in a combat  in a combat battalion in the  cold weapon age. 

佛家和基督教都是从box外往里看: 众生皆苦,其苦无边?

有control，但也没有。

这里有至少三套说法。出了box，有未知而可知；出了这层box，有未知而不可能知；出了这层box，非我所知。

佛家讲，有漏，无明皆苦。解脱圆满就没有苦啦。

 

是呀，最后只能go alone，毁于随，可道非常道，都是这个说法。遇到同道，可以拉一把，然后相忘。

All sin: no way out. 有control, but not by humans.

智者相悅，和而不同: 遇到同道，可以拉一把，然后相忘

佛家讲，有漏，无明皆苦。解脱圆满就没有苦啦。漏?圆满?How?

Elon Musk got X to replace Twitter, so X box by his rule.

Elon Musk got X to replace Twitter, so X box by his rule.

呵呵，那得问佛家的人了。我大体上是道家。

Wow! Salute! 道! 家!!

I get the story，but I thought I was on the wrong forum.

美语世界，哈哈

中文非常好嘛！赞！

欢迎大家移步美坛继续讨论。：））

子曰：君子易事而难说（悅）也。君子容易相处，不容易取悦。淡如水，他就悅了。甘若醴、狎、令色、慢，就不悦。

古今中外的正人君子，莫不如此。

巧婦為米[ 美語世界]是思維的問題: [品茶小軒]為米！

Well said ! ! !

the winner is not investing

but working.

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the winner is not investing

but working.

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the winner is not investing

but working.

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