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川普的摔跤手和外宣和工作人员打起来了!

Harenough
楼主 (北美华人网)
Trump带着他的PR去公墓访问,Section 60规定不照相和录像,结果他们强行照相,和公墓工作人员打起来了。
这个Steven Cheung 也言行说脏话,撒谎连篇,一fact check就说东说西转移视线,打脸了就笑笑走开,继续说下一个谎话。坚信谎话说1000遍就有人信了。培训其他PR也是这样教导。



https://www.npr.org/2024/08/27/nx-s1-5091154/trump-arlington-cemetery

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wantU
2 楼
摔跤手是啥?
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jellynsyrup
3 楼
这男的长得好像咸蛋超人和沙皮狗的mix
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monofaye
4 楼
NPR作为民主党的宣传工具应该改成DPR。where is Biden and Harris, by the way? Are they supposed to show up there in condolence of fallen soldiers because of their mistakes? Oh, they were invited but did not respond (e.g. they don't care).
NPR was afraid of Trump campaign show the photos, and thus the huge contrast between these two parties....
Democrats are no longer for the people like they used to be, they are there for themselves, and we were in their way with truth....
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Harenough
5 楼
Trump去看躺着病床上要死的人都勃然大怒摄影机没有对着他自己,
活的人都如此,更不要说这些为国捐躯的人了,不让他照相宣传还能打人,还有理由,太搞笑了.
法律,规定都挡不了他,怪不得有“一月6日”。
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Harenough
6 楼
trump把他前妻挖个坑就埋了,草长老高,还去看这些战死的人? 就是给他口中的地下室男看的。
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shanggj
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Harenough 发表于 2024-08-28 09:33
Trump去看躺着病床上要死的人都勃然大怒摄影机没有对着他自己,
活的人都如此,更不要说这些为国捐躯的人了,不让他照相宣传还能打人,还有理由,太搞笑了。

当年不是说了吗, 麦肯当了战俘, 好丢脸。 他只佩服那些没被活捉的。 死了的估计他也看不上。
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westlake
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:26
NPR作为民主党的宣传工具应该改成DPR。where is Biden and Harris, by the way? Are they supposed to show up there in condolence of fallen soldiers because of their mistakes? Oh, they were invited but did not respond (e.g. they don't care).
NPR was afraid of Trump campaign show the photos, and thus the huge contrast between these two parties....
Democrats are no longer for the people like they used to be, they are there for themselves, and we were in their way with truth....

NPR没有说谎啊,是他们为选举违法联邦法律去公墓拍照作秀,好意思吗
死人不能说话,不能站出来说我不要为你的选战服务,而且这些是为国捐躯的英雄!
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Harenough
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床铺自己贪生怕死,撒谎有骨刺逃兵役,还有脸去做秀。
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monofaye
10 楼
回复 9楼 westlake 的帖子
我看到的新闻是他们都被邀请了,biden和kamala 没有回应
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westlake
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:50
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我看到的新闻是他们都被邀请了,biden和kamala 没有回应

请出示证据
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monofaye
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回复 10楼 Harenough 的帖子
其实以前我也喜欢McCain, 后来才知道他在越南做的shady的事情,这也是为啥川普那么说。美国政治水很深。。。
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jellynsyrup
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:50
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我看到的新闻是他们都被邀请了,biden和kamala 没有回应

新闻链接发来看看
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Harenough
14 楼
哈哈,打脸了就笑笑走开,继续下一个谎言。。。
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monofaye
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回复 12楼 westlake 的帖子
好几天前看到的,等我找找,要出去玩了,在休假
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huaren2018
16 楼
这个Steven Cheung, 亚川粉的代表形象?整个一横肉敬二, 俗话说的相由心生 。。。
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drunkgaming
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:52
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其实以前我也喜欢McCain, 后来才知道他在越南做的shady的事情,这也是为啥川普那么说。美国政治水很深。。。

川粉真恶心。McCain当时在越南当俘虏各种被虐待。但他还是坚持要自己的战友先被释放,自己坚持到了最后被释放。川粉为了一个逃兵役的垃圾,诋毁越战英雄,真的是不能再low了。
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dahai008
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Harenough 发表于 2024-08-28 09:42
床铺自己贪生怕死,撒谎有骨刺逃兵役,还有脸去做秀。

有脸还叫川普吗
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Daenke
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:52
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其实以前我也喜欢McCain, 后来才知道他在越南做的shady的事情,这也是为啥川普那么说。美国政治水很深。。。

such as?
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WarmClock
20 楼
公墓确实不宜拍照。
到底是哪方先破坏的规矩? 规矩事先讲明没有?
不要东拉西扯,转移视线。
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Harenough
21 楼
这些粉k就是这个Steven 教出来的。他说,我有录像证据没有打架,然后别人叫他拿出来,然后他就消失了。
和大多数的川粉是不是很一样啊??? 长的像,行为也像,像一个妈生的,哈哈。
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westlake
22 楼
这个新闻也不只是NPR有报道:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/27/us/politics/trump-arlington-cemetery-clash.html
https://abcnews.go.com/Photos/arlington-national-cemetery-confirms-incident-trump-team-remembrance/story?id=113201141
也有川普团队的解释,但是那个解释还是和公墓的声明冲突
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sophist
23 楼
Daenke 发表于 2024-08-28 10:34
such as?

McCain没有太大问题,比老床这个没balls强多了。但不管怎样,毕竟屈打成招了,在自诩为越战英雄钢铁硬汉就不太合适了。 他自己的解释:"I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." 这个可以理解,比如想我这样的怂货肯定胳膊没被打断就直接招了。所以,我当不了英雄。 问题是,有的英雄有更高的breaking point,受了更惨烈的折磨而没有屈打成招。所以,到哪步算英雄呢?
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ShallowCreek
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sophist 发表于 2024-08-28 10:53
McCain没有太大问题,比老床这个没balls强多了。但不管怎样,毕竟屈打成招了,在自诩为越战英雄钢铁硬汉就不太合适了。 他自己的解释:"I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." 这个可以理解,比如想我这样的怂货肯定胳膊没被打断就直接招了。所以,我当不了英雄。 问题是,有的英雄有更高的breaking point,受了更惨烈的折磨而没有屈打成招。所以,到哪步算英雄呢?

你这还是有点东方观念啊。
在西方,为国做出了牺牲,受了苦都是值得尊敬的。
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JCJCjicw
25 楼
请楼主加个有图慎入吧
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Nicespringgirl
26 楼
回复 3楼 jellynsyrup 的帖子
哈哈哈哈哈哈
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花样失焦
27 楼
阿灵顿公墓发了声明,在公墓做政治活动,选举宣传是违法的。Trump又一次无视法律,说好的law and order呢
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Silong06
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sophist 发表于 2024-08-28 10:53
McCain没有太大问题,比老床这个没balls强多了。但不管怎样,毕竟屈打成招了,在自诩为越战英雄钢铁硬汉就不太合适了。 他自己的解释:"I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." 这个可以理解,比如想我这样的怂货肯定胳膊没被打断就直接招了。所以,我当不了英雄。 问题是,有的英雄有更高的breaking point,受了更惨烈的折磨而没有屈打成招。所以,到哪步算英雄呢?

美国不要求战士托炸药包、堵枪口,毕竟大家都是人,不是没有痛感的一堆铁。
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Silong06
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ShallowCreek 发表于 2024-08-28 11:04
你这还是有点东方观念啊。
在西方,为国做出了牺牲,受了苦都是值得尊敬的。

是的,即使是俘虏,也是为国家和人民受苦了,也有资格盖国旗,上纪念碑,受后人尊重瞻仰。
不像有些人,自己胆小没ball逃军役,还好意思说爱国、取笑别人在敌军手里备受折磨。还是人吗?
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Mediterranean
30 楼
没人吐槽川普要建立space national guard吗?说好了小政府不乱花钱的,NATO属于浪费钱的,跑太空去national guard 几个意思?
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可口可耐
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Silong06 发表于 2024-08-28 11:41
是的,即使是俘虏,也是为国家和人民受苦了,也有资格盖国旗,上纪念碑,受后人尊重瞻仰。
不像有些人,自己胆小没ball逃军役,还好意思说爱国、取笑别人在敌军手里备受折磨。还是人吗?

Trump本来就不是人,他哪里有一点人性!
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Felixa
32 楼
哇这长相,绝了,就怕别人不知道自己是坏人的那种长相
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wudadan
33 楼
回复 1楼 Harenough 的帖子
有没有视频?
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FatSheep
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川粉还是学习一下美国军队的protocol再发言吧。美军规定,被俘后只要个人生命受威胁,可以交代任何信息,活下来第一。
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Daenke
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sophist 发表于 2024-08-28 10:53
McCain没有太大问题,比老床这个没balls强多了。但不管怎样,毕竟屈打成招了,在自诩为越战英雄钢铁硬汉就不太合适了。 他自己的解释:"I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." 这个可以理解,比如想我这样的怂货肯定胳膊没被打断就直接招了。所以,我当不了英雄。 问题是,有的英雄有更高的breaking point,受了更惨烈的折磨而没有屈打成招。所以,到哪步算英雄呢?

他一个官二代军二代,冒着生命危险执行任务,拒绝优先遣返,这就是英雄了。
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宇宙洪荒
36 楼
section60 一般来说不允许照相, 但是这封信里特别提到家人允许川普团队照相。
Letter from fallen soldiers’ family:
“We would like to express our heartfelt thanks and appreciation to President Donald J. Trump for his presence at the recent Section 60 gathering, honoring our children and their fallen brothers and sisters. 
On the three-year anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing, the President and his team conducted themselves with nothing but the utmost respect and dignity for all of our service members, especially our beloved children.
We had given our approval for President Trump’s official videographer and photographer to attend the event, ensuring these sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured so we can cherish these memories forever. 
We are deeply grateful to the President for taking the time to honor our children and for standing alongside us in our grief, offering his unwavering support during such a difficult time. His compassion and respect meant more than words can express.
With sincere gratitude,
Darin Hoover Father of Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover
Kelly Barnett Mother of Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover
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westlake
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宇宙洪荒 发表于 2024-08-28 14:10
section60 一般来说不允许照相, 但是这封信里特别提到家人允许川普团队照相。
Letter from fallen soldiers’ family:
“We would like to express our heartfelt thanks and appreciation to President Donald J. Trump for his presence at the recent Section 60 gathering, honoring our children and their fallen brothers and sisters. 
On the three-year anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing, the President and his team conducted themselves with nothing but the utmost respect and dignity for all of our service members, especially our beloved children.
We had given our approval for President Trump’s official videographer and photographer to attend the event, ensuring these sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured so we can cherish these memories forever. 
We are deeply grateful to the President for taking the time to honor our children and for standing alongside us in our grief, offering his unwavering support during such a difficult time. His compassion and respect meant more than words can express.
With sincere gratitude,
Darin Hoover Father of Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover
Kelly Barnett Mother of Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover

所以几个阵亡烈士家属的愿望可以超越国家法律规定,也让那些埋在同一个墓地的其它多少烈士没有机会反对,是吗?
作秀就是作秀,搞什么借口?有本事,让他的竞选阵营不要宣传他去了墓地啊?哦,那他就不会去了对吧?
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Harenough
38 楼
规定就是规定,哪一个容许trump去看的就不要埋在国家公墓里,埋在自家后院随便哪个人都可以去。
trump会去看吗? 他连他前妻的坟都不会去。
trump用什么样的狡辩?
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monofaye
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westlake 发表于 2024-08-28 09:50
请出示证据

here you go!
https://thepostmillennial.com/kamala-biden-walz-invited-to-attend-arlington-memorial-for-fallen-soldiers-weeks-in-advance-none-of-them-showed-up?utm_campaign=64530
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吃鸡蛋
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sophist 发表于 2024-08-28 10:53
McCain没有太大问题,比老床这个没balls强多了。但不管怎样,毕竟屈打成招了,在自诩为越战英雄钢铁硬汉就不太合适了。 他自己的解释:"I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." 这个可以理解,比如想我这样的怂货肯定胳膊没被打断就直接招了。所以,我当不了英雄。 问题是,有的英雄有更高的breaking point,受了更惨烈的折磨而没有屈打成招。所以,到哪步算英雄呢?

情报界假设每个人都会break, 所以ta 只知道需要知道的
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meishan123
41 楼
这人真的太丑太丑了
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吃鸡蛋
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Harenough 发表于 2024-08-28 14:50
规定就是规定,哪一个容许trump去看的就不要埋在国家公墓里,埋在自家后院随便哪个人都可以去。
trump会去看吗? 他连他前妻的坟都不会去。
trump用什么样的狡辩?

他前妻埋在他家高尔夫球场旁边,他去打球的时候可能能看到,lol
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troy2011
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sophist 发表于 2024-08-28 10:53
McCain没有太大问题,比老床这个没balls强多了。但不管怎样,毕竟屈打成招了,在自诩为越战英雄钢铁硬汉就不太合适了。 他自己的解释:"I had learned what we all learned over there: every man has his breaking point. I had reached mine." 这个可以理解,比如想我这样的怂货肯定胳膊没被打断就直接招了。所以,我当不了英雄。 问题是,有的英雄有更高的breaking point,受了更惨烈的折磨而没有屈打成招。所以,到哪步算英雄呢?

你以为这是中国?美国的军人没有要求一定为国捐躯的。
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宇宙洪荒
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回复 38楼 westlake 的帖子
Here is the law:
"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."
说的是禁止以竞选为直接目的在公墓摄像。 作为前总统出席悼念仪式,而且事先获得烈士家属同意了,是私人行为。为啥不允许?
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Harenough
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宇宙洪荒 发表于 2024-08-28 15:32
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Here is the law:
"Federal law prohibits political campaign or election-related activities within Army National Military Cemeteries, to include photographers, content creators or any other persons attending for purposes, or in direct support of a partisan political candidate's campaign," according to the statement. "Arlington National Cemetery reinforced and widely shared this law and its prohibitions with all participants."
说的是禁止以竞选为直接目的在公墓摄像。 作为前总统出席悼念仪式,而且事先获得烈士家属同意了,是私人行为。为啥不允许?

联邦法律规定不能录像,他去了录了像,就是break the law, 就是一个家属叫他去break the law,他就去了??
他没有那么白痴吧,就是为了宣传而break the law.
对Trump 来说,他就是law,对吧?
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destiny2008
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meishan123 发表于 2024-08-28 15:18
这人真的太丑太丑了

人家可是黄右的杰出代表
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destiny2008
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wantU 发表于 2024-08-28 09:17
摔跤手是啥?

应该说是打手
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jellynsyrup
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Harenough 发表于 2024-08-28 17:48
联邦法律规定不能录像,他去了录了像,就是break the law, 就是一个家属叫他去break the law,他就去了??
他没有那么白痴吧,就是为了宣传而break the law.
对Trump 来说,他就是law,对吧?

大概是对felon来说,平时违个小法就和呼吸一样简单吧
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percipient64
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drunkgaming 发表于 2024-08-28 10:29
川粉真恶心。McCain当时在越南当俘虏各种被虐待。但他还是坚持要自己的战友先被释放,自己坚持到了最后被释放。川粉为了一个逃兵役的垃圾,诋毁越战英雄,真的是不能再low了。

同意,还是对一个死去的人。什么样Shaddy 的事情麻烦讲出来。静待monofaye 把当年Bush 和 Obama 团队都没有挖出来的关于McCain 的黑料。
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50 楼
川粉都是一起培训的。 x上也是异口同声说为什么拜登不去。拜托,人家去的时候你也不关注啊。不过跟川粉是没有道理好讲的,他们脑子里没有逻辑也没有常识。
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51 楼
这个cheung极其可以代表川粉的形象啊。
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nctumit
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:26
NPR作为民主党的宣传工具应该改成DPR。where is Biden and Harris, by the way? Are they supposed to show up there in condolence of fallen soldiers because of their mistakes? Oh, they were invited but did not respond (e.g. they don''t care).
NPR was afraid of Trump campaign show the photos, and thus the huge contrast between these two parties....
Democrats are no longer for the people like they used to be, they are there for themselves, and we were in their way with truth....


they pay their tribute in other occasions not during elections
Trump visit only during elections, not other occasions
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keyw
53 楼
回复 53楼 nctumit 的帖子
又抓住个胡说八道的,今年这些家庭特地邀请Trump参加的
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宇宙洪荒
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回复 46楼 Harenough 的帖子
法律原文已经贴出来了。 川普出席本身并不是竞选活动。
Here is what Vance said on this: JUST IN: JD Vance tells Kamala to "go to hell" after her campaign criticized Trump for going to Arlington National Cemetery to honor the 13 service members who died in Afghanistan.
"To have those 13 Americans lose their lives and not fire a single person is disgraceful. Kamala Harris is disgraceful."
"Kamala Harris is so asleep at the wheel that she won't even do an investigation into what happened."
"But she wants to yell at Donald Trump for showing up. She can go to hell."
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teddysan
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宇宙洪荒 发表于 2024-08-28 14:10
section60 一般来说不允许照相, 但是这封信里特别提到家人允许川普团队照相。
Letter from fallen soldiers’ family:
“We would like to express our heartfelt thanks and appreciation to President Donald J. Trump for his presence at the recent Section 60 gathering, honoring our children and their fallen brothers and sisters. 
On the three-year anniversary of the Abbey Gate bombing, the President and his team conducted themselves with nothing but the utmost respect and dignity for all of our service members, especially our beloved children.
We had given our approval for President Trump’s official videographer and photographer to attend the event, ensuring these sacred moments of remembrance were respectfully captured so we can cherish these memories forever. 
We are deeply grateful to the President for taking the time to honor our children and for standing alongside us in our grief, offering his unwavering support during such a difficult time. His compassion and respect meant more than words can express.
With sincere gratitude,
Darin Hoover Father of Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover
Kelly Barnett Mother of Staff Sgt. Taylor Hoover

FORMER President.
这些都是1月6号的同好吧?还是不读书呢?
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westlake
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宇宙洪荒 发表于 2024-08-28 21:14
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法律原文已经贴出来了。 川普出席本身并不是竞选活动。
Here is what Vance said on this: JUST IN: JD Vance tells Kamala to "go to hell" after her campaign criticized Trump for going to Arlington National Cemetery to honor the 13 service members who died in Afghanistan.
"To have those 13 Americans lose their lives and not fire a single person is disgraceful. Kamala Harris is disgraceful."
"Kamala Harris is so asleep at the wheel that she won't even do an investigation into what happened."
"But she wants to yell at Donald Trump for showing up. She can go to hell."

如果和竞选无关就不要拿这些照片和录像做竞选材料,能做到吗?
如果没这好处,川才懒得理这些loser和sucker呢
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Harenough
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回复 46楼 Harenough 的帖子
法律原文已经贴出来了。 川普出席本身并不是竞选活动。
Here is what Vance said on this: JUST IN: JD Vance tells Kamala to "go to hell" after her campaign criticized Trump for going to Arlington National Cemetery to honor the 13 service members who died in Afghanistan.
"To have those 13 Americans lose their lives and not fire a single person is disgraceful. Kamala Harris is disgraceful."
"Kamala Harris is so asleep at the wheel that she won't even do an investigation into what happened."
"But she wants to yell at Donald Trump for showing up. She can go to hell."
宇宙洪荒 发表于 2024-08-28 21:14

他出席“本身” 当然不是,欢迎出席。 天天去都可以。
但是Section 60联邦法律规定不能照相,公墓的工作人员前前后后说了不能照相,不管你干啥都不能。trump违反法律,那个“Steven 全“ 工作人员还和公墓工作人员打起来。
然后trump还发tiktock 宣传,就是给他竞选宣传,这有什么好说的?

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percipient64
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Harenough 发表于 2024-08-28 21:28
他出席“本身” 当然不是,欢迎出席。 天天去都可以。
但是Section 60联邦法律规定不能照相,公墓的工作人员前前后后说了不能照相,不管你干啥都不能。trump违反法律,那个“Steven 全“ 工作人员还和公墓工作人员打起来。
然后trump还发tiktock 宣传,就是给他竞选宣传,这有什么好说的?


说得对。 什么样的烂人才会在阵亡将士墓前给个thumb up?
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Mediterranean
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percipient64 发表于 2024-08-28 22:06
说得对。 什么样的烂人才会在阵亡将士墓前给个thumb up?

要求别太高了,他没在那直播卖货(最新99刀digital card、衣服碎片)就很够意思了
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poinciana
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:26
NPR作为民主党的宣传工具应该改成DPR。where is Biden and Harris, by the way? Are they supposed to show up there in condolence of fallen soldiers because of their mistakes? Oh, they were invited but did not respond (e.g. they don't care).
NPR was afraid of Trump campaign show the photos, and thus the huge contrast between these two parties....
Democrats are no longer for the people like they used to be, they are there for themselves, and we were in their way with truth....

Trump didn't want to visit a cemetery near Paris for Americans who fought and died in World War I because it was filled with "suckers" and "losers," .
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poinciana
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monofaye 发表于 2024-08-28 09:52
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其实以前我也喜欢McCain, 后来才知道他在越南做的shady的事情,这也是为啥川普那么说。美国政治水很深。。。

Trump 是真正的越战英雄,我后来才知道他越战是单枪匹马击败了越共3百万军队,比McCain厉害多了。
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monofaye
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McCain 的事情很多年前炒出来。 这个是有关他在越南的时候的事情,earned him "songbird McCain "
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/retired-star-general-fox-news-analyst-torture-worked/story?id=55077650
https://theweek.com/speedreads/772593/torture-worked-songbird-john-mccain-says-fox-business-guest
Although the story was "debunked" by MSM, you know how fact check by MSM goes. His nickname said it all, not out of thin air.
McCain as a senator, is a big rino, part of DS, or the military complex, a warmonger behind Ukraine war. There was a video of him with lindsy graham and Ukraine soldiers, on how he supported them to against Russia, that was before the Russia-Ukraine war....likely before Trump’s inauguration....so technically the war was delayed because of Trump's presidency.
I don't like or support war, nor use my tax dollars to fund war. Whoever supporting war, should send their own family members and use their money to fund the war....unfortunately, warmonger utilize war to make money not for better goods.
The more I knew him, the more I dislike him, although I would not mock him or discredit him for fighting in Vietnam War. So let fact speak itself.


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