UCSD computer science 新的录取指南，本版的孩子基本上都被排除在外了

UCSD announced a new policy April 9 to exclude students whose parent is college educated and makes over $45,000 from enrolling in computer science or other selective majors, unless spots are available after first generation or low income students enroll.

噢噢

好脑残的政策

不止本版吧。这是只招单亲黑天使的意思吧。

哇！这种写出来的歧视算actionable了吧？

行吧。加油！把大学水准拉到初中。

本版政庇，大法学员被你无视了？

这就是拿准州内无论如何都愿意去吧。外州的宁可去私立也不要花外州学费读这么招生的专业。

可以可以 我觉得现在科技发展太快了， 倒退20年也不是不可以。

这个会被起诉的吧

wenwenxia 发表于 2024-04-21 18:40
UCSD announced a new policy April 9 to exclude students whose parent is college educated and makes over $45,000 from enrolling in computer science or other selective majors, unless spots are available after first generation or low income students enroll.

天哪，不敢相信这是真的。

45000？？！？！ 那就是说只要父母读过大学有工作的都可以一边凉快去了！

讨论这么多，没一个人知道去查一下信息来源。

工农兵学员祖上三代根正苗红, 你们是未来的接班人……似曾相识，如果不是楼主乱编的新闻

这是另一种歧视

没看出来哪里提到$45000了，只说了转专业优先州内学生和first-generation。lz原文是哪来的？

只限於現有學生轉科系。 不包含新生招生。也沒有硬性說不能。樓主這聳動的標題。

mise88 发表于 2024-04-21 18:59


只限於現有學生轉科系。 不包含新生招生。也沒有硬性說不能。樓主這聳動的標題。

转系就需要爹妈是彻底的无产？这种傻B学校。。。。

这可是政治正确的极致，估计UCSD CS从此排名宇宙永久第一。

不会吧，四万五？洗盘子都比四万五多了。这还能招到人吗

CK 发表于 2024-04-21 19:01
转系就需要爹妈是彻底的无产？这种傻B学校。。。。

反正外州双职工的娃肯定是最低priority 了。 关键不光转专业，这体现学校一贯的philosophy 吧，说的清清楚楚， consistent with…. 不过外州本来也主要申uc top 2.

lz故意这样不说全，传播假新闻，不是太好吧？

wenwenxia 发表于 2024-04-21 18:40
UCSD announced a new policy April 9 to exclude students whose parent is college educated and makes over $45,000 from enrolling in computer science or other selective majors, unless spots are available after first generation or low income students enroll.

请给出UCSD官方网页上的原始链接, 不要拿twitter上发言当证据可以吗. 和这个政策最接近的是入校以后非CS专业要转CS专业的政策, 并非直接录取CS的政策. https://cse.ucsd.edu/undergraduate/cse-selective-major-process ------- 只是first generation 有优先, 有一个打分系统, 这个我们红州大学也是如此. 楼主提的政策哪也没有. 如果是真的, 那么恭喜了, 可以去打官司了. ------------- Beginning in Summer 2025, currently enrolled students who want to switch into a selective major will be able to apply to selective majors once per year (between Summer and Fall quarters). The selection criteria for entry to the major will consider academic achievement in the specified screening courses and will also be aligned with UC San Diego’s priorities of serving California residents, first-generation college students, and students from low-income families. Continuing students who apply to switch to a selective major must have completed the required screening courses for that major and be in good academic standing. They will then be considered for the major using a point system that awards one point each for having a 3.0 GPA or higher in the major screening courses; California residency; Pell Grant eligibility; and first-generation college status (as determined by information received at the time of initial admission to UC San Diego). Students with the highest number of points will be admitted until all available spaces within the major have been filled. Ties will be broken using random selection. Being a double-major does not disqualify a student from consideration.

好像是假消息

page394 发表于 2024-04-21 19:05
反正外州双职工的娃肯定是最低priority 了。 关键不光转专业，这体现学校一贯的philosophy 吧，说的清清楚楚， consistent with…. 不过外州本来也主要申uc top 2.

外周读uc 图啥？有拿钱都个小课班私校不香么

吃鸡蛋 发表于 2024-04-21 19:09
外周读uc 图啥？有拿钱都个小课班私校不香么

是这个道理。

page394 发表于 2024-04-21 19:05
反正外州双职工的娃肯定是最低priority 了。 关键不光转专业，这体现学校一贯的philosophy 吧，说的清清楚楚， consistent with…. 不过外州本来也主要申uc top 2.

外州的人也许不会选这个学校，但是这种政策写出来就很无语。 难道一个巨难吃的餐馆因为没华人愿意去吃，就可以贴“华人勿入黑名贵优先点菜”？

反正外州双职工的娃肯定是最低priority 了。 关键不光转专业，这体现学校一贯的philosophy 吧，说的清清楚楚， consistent with…. 不过外州本来也主要申uc top 2.
page394 发表于 2024-04-21 19:05

早该这样了，别人家州大，什么UMich、UIUC、UMD，州外生明显比州内高两个档次才能录取。
除了UC，没见过哪家州大这么胳膊肘往外拐的。

吃鸡蛋 发表于 2024-04-21 19:09
外周读uc 图啥？有拿钱都个小课班私校不香么

看哪个UC了。垃圾UCSD 是不值，但是ucb会不会效仿呢？他们是一个系统的。

badgerbadger 发表于 2024-04-21 19:27
早该这样了，别人家州大，什么UMich、UIUC、UMD，州外生明显比州内高两个档次才能录取。
除了UC，没见过哪家州大这么胳膊肘往外拐的。

也就影响top2.

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这些低收入进去，UC 给Financial Aid 吗？外州的也给吗？要不然怎么上得起？

zhouxiaotu 发表于 2024-04-21 19:03
不会吧，四万五？洗盘子都比四万五多了。这还能招到人吗

Pell Grant eligibility就是联邦认定的低收入，本来CS的转学名额也没多少，不愁没人，大部分是直接录取的，没影响

badgerbadger 发表于 2024-04-21 19:27
早该这样了，别人家州大，什么UMich、UIUC、UMD，州外生明显比州内高两个档次才能录取。
除了UC，没见过哪家州大这么胳膊肘往外拐的。

UC没有胳膊肘外拐，而是内拐的不够而已 For the 2022-2023 application cycle, UCLA received more than 145,000 applications and admitted a little less than 13,000 students, amounting to an acceptance rate of less than 9%. These numbers illustrate just how competitive the UCLA admissions cycle is. In order to stand out for the right reasons, students must carefully follow application guidelines, write compelling personal statements, and have competitive grades. Nearly 60% of all enrolled applicants for UCLA’s Class of 2026 had an unweighted GPA of 4.0 or above. The average GPA for this class was 3.93. It’s also important to understand in-state versus out-of-state acceptance rates. As part of the state-funded University of California system, UCLA prioritizes in-state students when making admissions decisions. The UCLA in-state acceptance rate for the Class of 2027 was 9.46%, whereas it was only 8.62% for out-of-state applicants and 6.09% for international applicants.

Wl8418 发表于 2024-04-21 19:34
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这些低收入进去，UC 给Financial Aid 吗？外州的也给吗？要不然怎么上得起？

本州的当然给，中产自己孩子很难进州立，还得交税养人家娃上学。所以大家看到加州不错的高中很多孩子去了Umich, Pittsburgh, GaTech, UMaryland, UTAustin, UIUC etc，完全享受不了作为纳税人的好处

无名氏too 发表于 2024-04-21 20:48
本州的当然给，中产自己孩子很难进州立，还得交税养人家娃上学。所以大家看到加州不错的高中很多孩子去了Umich, Pittsburgh, GaTech, UMaryland, UTAustin, UIUC etc，完全享受不了作为纳税人的好处

对，我认识一家低收入（报税1.8万，有咨询我报税的事），第一代大学生，8分高中，大女儿3年前进了UCB，小儿子今年UCSB，成绩并不是全A，SAT没考出来。没地方说理去。

说句不好听的：怪我们自己努力学习，努力工作生活，挡了孩子的路。

如果真有这规定，这太过分了。 那是逆向歧视，可以告 UCSD的。 有学位的家长大家出些钱，找律师告学校。

lendingclubs 发表于 2024-04-21 20:37
UC没有胳膊肘外拐，而是内拐的不够而已 For the 2022-2023 application cycle, UCLA received more than 145,000 applications and admitted a little less than 13,000 students, amounting to an acceptance rate of less than 9%. These numbers illustrate just how competitive the UCLA admissions cycle is. In order to stand out for the right reasons, students must carefully follow application guidelines, write compelling personal statements, and have competitive grades. Nearly 60% of all enrolled applicants for UCLA’s Class of 2026 had an unweighted GPA of 4.0 or above. The average GPA for this class was 3.93. It’s also important to understand in-state versus out-of-state acceptance rates. As part of the state-funded University of California system, UCLA prioritizes in-state students when making admissions decisions. The UCLA in-state acceptance rate for the Class of 2027 was 9.46%, whereas it was only 8.62% for out-of-state applicants and 6.09% for international applicants.

问题申外州州立的，像UC 收费这么高的不怎么给i外州学生钱的，大部分是上中产吧。 加州州内录取，有低收入倾向，上中产可能录取还没9%。所以和类似背景水平的abc比，有可能出现州内居民更难的情况。

这是违宪了，可以告它吧！

badgerbadger 发表于 2024-04-21 19:27
早该这样了，别人家州大，什么UMich、UIUC、UMD，州外生明显比州内高两个档次才能录取。
除了UC，没见过哪家州大这么胳膊肘往外拐的。

别高兴的太早，光本州远远不够，打分系统呀，肯定是本州低收入的全占了。

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MARK

yayapig 发表于 2024-04-21 19:08
请给出UCSD官方网页上的原始链接, 不要拿twitter上发言当证据可以吗. 和这个政策最接近的是入校以后非CS专业要转CS专业的政策, 并非直接录取CS的政策. https://cse.ucsd.edu/undergraduate/cse-selective-major-process ------- 只是first generation 有优先, 有一个打分系统, 这个我们红州大学也是如此. 楼主提的政策哪也没有. 如果是真的, 那么恭喜了, 可以去打官司了. ------------- Beginning in Summer 2025, currently enrolled students who want to switch into a selective major will be able to apply to selective majors once per year (between Summer and Fall quarters). The selection criteria for entry to the major will consider academic achievement in the specified screening courses and will also be aligned with UC San Diego’s priorities of serving California residents, first-generation college students, and students from low-income families. Continuing students who apply to switch to a selective major must have completed the required screening courses for that major and be in good academic standing. They will then be considered for the major using a point system that awards one point each for having a 3.0 GPA or higher in the major screening courses; California residency; Pell Grant eligibility; and first-generation college status (as determined by information received at the time of initial admission to UC San Diego). Students with the highest number of points will be admitted until all available spaces within the major have been filled. Ties will be broken using random selection. Being a double-major does not disqualify a student from consideration.

怪不得我昨晚忽然收到家人的微信问这事。 转的消息就是LZ贴的。　

这回华人和国内人上加州社区大学再转的曲线救国路子就堵了大半了。

没事去逛街 发表于 2024-04-21 20:56


对，我认识一家低收入（报税1.8万，有咨询我报税的事），第一代大学生，8分高中，大女儿3年前进了UCB，小儿子今年UCSB，成绩并不是全A，SAT没考出来。没地方说理去。

UC不看SAT。

mingm 发表于 2024-04-22 14:16
UC不看SAT。

我知道，只是说明学术水平一般啦

没事去逛街 发表于 2024-04-21 20:56


对，我认识一家低收入（报税1.8万，有咨询我报税的事），第一代大学生，8分高中，大女儿3年前进了UCB，小儿子今年UCSB，成绩并不是全A，SAT没考出来。没地方说理去。

男娃女娃本来就没有可比性。而且现在说最终录了哪个学校还为时过早。加州的孩子基本所有人都是每个加大分校都申请，谁都是最后只能去一个，所以会有几轮录取。我知道的前几年很多孩子一开始只拿到UCSB，UCR，最后进了UCSD，UCI的，都是STEM专业。