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APAD: Might makes right

移花接木
楼主 (文学城)

Might makes right

Might makes right or Might is right is an aphorism on the origin of morality, with both descriptive and prescriptive senses.

Descriptively, it asserts that a society's view of right and wrong is determined by those in power, with a meaning similar to "History is written by the victors". That is, although all people have their personal ideas of the good, only those strong enough to overcome obstacles and enemies can put their ideas into effect, and spread their own standards to society at large. Montague defined kratocracy or kraterocracy (from the Ancient Greek: κρ?τος, romanized: krátos, lit. 'might; strength') as a government based on coercive power, by those strong enough to seize control through physical violence or demagogic manipulation.

Prescriptively (or normatively), the phrase is most often used pejoratively, to protest perceived tyranny.

The phrase sometimes has a positive connotation in the context of master morality or social Darwinism, which hold that a society's strongest members should rule and determine its standards of right and wrong, as well as its goals for the greater good。

 

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最西边的岛上
2 楼
And Might might not be democracy?

A heated debate:
https://www.reddit.com/r/PoliticalDiscussion/comments/li7rh/how_is_democracy_different_than_might_makes_right/

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移花接木
3 楼
right, might is absolutely prescriptive, might or might not
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移花接木
4 楼
American Democracy rose, British Colonialism down after WWII
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移花接木
5 楼
democracy is mighter
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7grizzly
6 楼
Good to learn 'kratocracy,' though not a dictionary word.
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妖妖灵
7 楼
统治阶级说了算。Learned a lot of new words. “master morality”什么意思?
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最西边的岛上
8 楼
I know. ;-)
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7grizzly
9 楼
Might be just prevailing morality, perpetrated by the ruling
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移花接木
10 楼
prescriptively right! 大概就是指master阶层的morality, 说法来自尼采,同理
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移花接木
11 楼
slave morality
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移花接木
12 楼
看看这一段
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妖妖灵
13 楼
一上升到哲学高度,觉得英文好难:)
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妖妖灵
14 楼
你的词也好难,越发看不懂了:)
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移花接木
15 楼
一句话,Noble的人配拥有master morality
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最西边的岛上
16 楼
哈哈,对我来说,哲学就是难!有好玩时候,也有脑袋大想逃跑时候,out of sight out of mind ;-)
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方外居士
17 楼
拳头大的有理。力強者有理。
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妖妖灵
18 楼
哈哈,我实在是不懂。我也不怕人笑话,今天大拿们都在,正好搞明白点:)
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妖妖灵
19 楼
master morality是统治者道德观吗?“prescriptively right”是规范者正确?还是规范者权利
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妖妖灵
20 楼
prescriptively是形容词还是副词?什么意思?
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盈盈一笑间
21 楼
社会达尔文主义还蛮冷酷的
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盈盈一笑间
22 楼
想到俄乌战争了, 今天是2周年。在楼上跟一个新闻。
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7grizzly
23 楼
Good to know!
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7grizzly
24 楼
Sorry. I just meant popular morality.
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方外居士
25 楼
是啊,东方哲学不崇尚力强者胜,西方哲学则确实如此。justice is power
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godog
26 楼
So, Mr. Right is Mr. Might?
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移花接木
27 楼
might makes right, 如果你说它是:力量决定正义,这就是Descriptive,相当于直意
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移花接木
28 楼
might makes right 如果你说它是:利用强势欺负弱势,这就是Prescriptive,字面没说但有此含义
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移花接木
29 楼
打倒尼采
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移花接木
30 楼
东方哲学?包括日本了吗?东方哲学虚伪,不这么说事实确如此
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移花接木
31 楼
which might is which?
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7grizzly
32 楼
What for? What did the poor guy do? :-)
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移花接木
33 楼
master,slave违背社会主义核心价值观
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7grizzly
34 楼
Okay. 罪名可以是“寻衅滋事” :-)
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最西边的岛上
35 楼
FYI:尼采在中国(1902—2000)(for fun reading ;-)

https://www.163.com/dy/article/FVQQL1FF0541LBHV.html

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7grizzly
36 楼
thank you! Good to know his impact. I like a few quotes

but am not really interested in Nitzsche. To me, philosophy has to be simple, like APAD :-)))

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