最新研究表明 Long Covid可能不是Covid病毒引起的

https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2023/7/4/long-covid-may-not-be-caused-by-covid-19-virus
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230704/Immune-inflammatory-reaction-to-COVID-19-may-not-be-the-underlying-cause-of-long-Covid.aspx#:~:text=Long%20Covid%2C%20which%20affects%20nearly,for%20months%20after%20COVID%2D19
长新冠不是病毒引起的？那是怎么回事？

那是啥，文章里有说吗？我没看懂

是因为新冠病毒刺激了免疫系统，引起免疫系统长期反应

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那其实还是病毒导致的

是因为新冠病毒刺激了免疫系统，引起免疫系统长期反应
珠箔飘灯 发表于 2023-07-05 15:24

那就还是covid病毒引起的 直接 vs. 间接

就跟艾滋病差不多.病毒本身不会一下把人给搞死,但会摧毁免疫系统.十年后可能一个感冒就要命了.不知道得艾滋病的人,刚得的时候是什么症状,是不是就像感冒,流感一样.

看这段话 Further analysis showed there was no rapid increase in immune cells targeting SARS-CoV-2, but there was an increase in T-cells targeting CMV -- a common virus that is usually harmless but can stay in the body for life once you’re infected with it. That suggests that the prolonged T-cell activation observed at three months in severe patients may not be driven by SARS-CoV-2, but instead may be "bystander driven" by dormant viruses that were reactivated.  
不是病毒引起是 dormant viruses that were reactivated ， 疫苗算不算呢

看这段话 Further analysis showed there was no rapid increase in immune cells targeting SARS-CoV-2, but there was an increase in T-cells targeting CMV -- a common virus that is usually harmless but can stay in the body for life once you’re infected with it. That suggests that the prolonged T-cell activation observed at three months in severe patients may not be driven by SARS-CoV-2, but instead may be "bystander driven" by dormant viruses that were reactivated.  
不是病毒引起是 dormant viruses that were reactivated ， 疫苗算不算呢


springday 发表于 2023-07-05 17:12

疫苗即使有，也是灭活疫苗才有。
MRNA 疫苗本身不含病毒，只是仿病毒结构制成的，因此它不存在deactived viruses （被灭火的病毒）某一天重新reactivated 的问题。当然，它有可能会引起其他一些不良反应。

疫苗即使有，也是灭活疫苗才有。
MRNA 疫苗本身不含病毒，只是仿病毒结构制成的，因此它不存在deactived viruses （被灭火的病毒）某一天重新reactivated 的问题。当然，它有可能会引起其他一些不良反应。
alloccupied 发表于 2023-07-05 17:23

另一篇文章说的是  This indicates that the prolonged T-cell activation observed at three months in severe patients may not be driven by SARS-CoV-2 but instead may be "bystander driven" i.e. driven by cytokines 这个cytokines又是什么？ mRNA 算不算cytokines 呢 ？

看这段话 Further analysis showed there was no rapid increase in immune cells targeting SARS-CoV-2, but there was an increase in T-cells targeting CMV -- a common virus that is usually harmless but can stay in the body for life once you’re infected with it. That suggests that the prolonged T-cell activation observed at three months in severe patients may not be driven by SARS-CoV-2, but instead may be "bystander driven" by dormant viruses that were reactivated.  
不是病毒引起是 dormant viruses that were reactivated ， 疫苗算不算呢


springday 发表于 2023-07-05 17:12

疫苗也是个大坑.整个pandemic都很诡异.

https://www.painnewsnetwork.org/stories/2023/7/4/long-covid-may-not-be-caused-by-covid-19-virus
https://www.news-medical.net/news/20230704/Immune-inflammatory-reaction-to-COVID-19-may-not-be-the-underlying-cause-of-long-Covid.aspx#:~:text=Long%20Covid%2C%20which%20affects%20nearly,for%20months%20after%20COVID%2D19
长新冠不是病毒引起的？那是怎么回事？


springday 发表于 2023-07-05 13:18

枪击死因不是子弹
是心跳骤停造成的全身器官衰竭。