WHO 的最新update:COVID 苗苗和multiple sclerosis(多发性硬化症)

各位打苗苗的勇士怎么看WHO这个关于苗苗和多发性硬化症的关系的研究. Covid-19 vaccination can induce multiple sclerosis via cross-reactive CD4+ T cells recognizing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and myelin peptides
https://pesquisa.bvsalud.org/global-literature-on-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov/resource/pt/covidwho-2138820?lang=en
Dr. John Campbell 作了一期节目讨论WHO的篇关于COVID 苗苗引起MS.下面6,365 Comments, 看了一下,好像还不是个别现象.几天前版上还有人攻击别人不打苗苗是"丧尽天良",攻击别人是反科学,是阴谋论的人,对你们的最高权威的update有何看法?

所以LZ一针都没有打？ 完全是靠在家躲病毒吗？

如果确定触发MS，政府会赔偿吧，这事真是赌概率，摊上严重后遗症副作用是挺惨的

如果确定触发MS，政府会赔偿吧，这事真是赌概率，摊上严重后遗症副作用是挺惨的
Viviennedd 发表于 2023-05-30 10:42

emergency受权的苗苗是没有赔偿的,至少在美国没有.

Ms是自身免疫病，任何免疫攻击都会trigger，病毒感染任何疫苗。flu shot发给你的那张纸上应该也会写。

怪不得好烂污好几个女明星得ms的

病毒根本不用躲，共存就是了。最开始重症多没有疫苗，后来疫苗出来了毒株也都变了，从头到尾看不出来疫苗有没有用，副作用倒是一堆。

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不打疫苗就一定要躲病毒？ 一个大感冒真把你吓成这样？ 这个疫苗不防感染不防重症好不好

所以LZ一针都没有打？ 完全是靠在家躲病毒吗？
pinponlinzie 发表于 2023-05-30 10:38

我打没打苗苗和WHO的最新UPDATE有什么逻辑关系吗?

各位打苗苗的勇士怎么看WHO这个关于苗苗和多发性硬化症的关系的研究. Covid-19 vaccination can induce multiple sclerosis via cross-reactive CD4+ T cells recognizing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and myelin peptides
https://pesquisa.bvsalud.org/global-literature-on-novel-coronavirus-2019-ncov/resource/pt/covidwho-2138820?lang=en
Dr. John Campbell 作了一期节目讨论WHO的篇关于COVID 苗苗引起MS.下面6,365 Comments, 看了一下,好像还不是个别现象.几天前版上还有人攻击别人不打苗苗是"丧尽天良",攻击别人是反科学,是阴谋论的人,对你们的最高权威的update有何看法?



kim2022 发表于 2023-05-30 10:35

自然然感染新冠免疫系统不会接触到spike protein么？
想一下哈

又躲过一劫？普通人活着真不容易，一坑接一坑的跳，运气的就是没死哪个坑里。

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自然感染接触到那一丁点spike protein和直接打入身体一大堆还是有区别的

不打疫苗。病毒也有可能触发MS。染上病毒免疫系统就会杀毒。不小心就会攻击正常的细胞。哎，都是命。

这个不是什么WHO的官方update，只是在WHO的数据库里面被搜出来的文章，来源是2022年一个叫做ECTRIMS 2022的会议的online poster，内容是一个case report，作者发现了两位接种过新冠疫苗后发病的多发性硬化病人，并且在他们身上检出了能够交叉识别spike protein和MBP/MOG多肽的T细胞
原文在这里，EP0942 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/epub/10.1177/13524585221123682
新冠病毒是一个能够引起大量自免疫问题的病毒，说是后患无穷也不为过。疫苗用的是病毒身上的spike protein，病毒能够引起的各种自免疫问题，疫苗当然多少也会有一点。

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自然感染接触到那一丁点spike protein和直接打入身体一大堆还是有区别的
springday 发表于 2023-05-30 11:01

mRNA 疫苗是不会自我复制的。
新冠病毒是不停自我复制的。
想一下哈

Posts misrepresent research on multiple sclerosis and COVID-19 vaccines found in WHO database By PHILIP MARCELOMay 26, 2023
The Associated Press on Friday, May 26, 2023 reported on false claims that the WHO has admitted in a study that the COVID-19 vaccine causes multiple sclerosis. (AP Photo/Mark Schiefelbein) CLAIM: The World Health Organization admitted that COVID-19 vaccines can lead to multiple sclerosis. AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. A database on the WHO website includes an abstract for a conference presentation about research that examined two recent cases of MS. The research found there might be a potential link to COVID vaccines, but did not definitively conclude the shots triggered the neurological disease, according to the global health agency and multiple sclerosis experts. They stress the research, which is not a peer-reviewed study, is limited and more extensive studies would be needed to determine what role, if any, the inoculation plays in the onset of the disease. THE FACTS: Social media users are sharing a post that suggests the WHO has found COVID vaccines can lead to multiple sclerosis. Many are sharing a screenshot of recent research titled: “Covid-19 vaccination can induce multiple sclerosis via cross-reactive CD4+ T cells recognizing SARS-CoV-2 spike protein and myelin peptides.” “Look what the WHO is admitting to…” wrote one user on Twitter who shared the screenshots. “HOLY. MOTHER. OF. GOD. From the WHO site itself,” wrote another Twitter user who shared the screenshots in a post that was retweeted more than 11,000 times as of Friday. Similar posts were also shared on Instagram. MS is a potentially disabling but rarely fatal neurological disease that occurs when immune system cells mistakenly attack the protective coating on nerve fibers, gradually eroding them. The exact cause of the chronic ailment is unknown, but it afflicts more than one million Americans and causes symptoms ranging from numbness and tingling to mood changes, memory problems, pain, fatigue, blindness and even paralysis, according to the National Multiple Sclerosis Society.

所以LZ一针都没有打？ 完全是靠在家躲病毒吗？
pinponlinzie 发表于 2023-05-30 10:38

人体有一个东西叫natural immunity。打过疫苗，没打过疫苗的都得过新冠。打疫苗也逃不掉得新冠啊。

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自然感染接触到那一丁点spike protein和直接打入身体一大堆还是有区别的
springday 发表于 2023-05-30 11:01

??? ......

欧洲已经公开讲covid 疫苗的伤害了。对于年轻男性（12-25），myocarditis也挺严重的。还有其他各种会被trigger的问题。

mRNA发明者Dr Malone在youtube上有视频专门讲mRNA新冠疫苗的问题。前几年被禁，最近应该能找到了。感兴趣的可以去看。
还有英国的Dr campbell也有许多视频讲述新冠相关信息，都是欧洲那里的资料。欧洲对于新冠疫苗没有那么不可说，有更多研究讨论。